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Old 02-28-2012, 05:28 AM   #141 (permalink)
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Bennett gave guidance to a team of great players who needed that experienced, level head to guide them to premiership glory. They were consistently making the finals and always a genuine threat for the title. Newcastle, however, have been utter tripe since 2001, and no injection of Boyd at fullback or Bennett being coach will rectify that as quickly as delusional Knights fans or Bennett cockriders would belive it to happen. The one 'good' player from the Hunter since that premiership is Kurt Gidley (and last year Uate), and the rest are just...trash.
There isnít much to rectify. Itís a pretty good team. They have a good 17 + depth, and players that can play various positions (a big strength of his Dragons teams). You make it out like they are perennial wooden spooners. Iím quite surprised that my selection of Knights as minor premiers is knocking your noses out of place. Gidley to push for Dally M.


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:Weyman is a fat, lazy sack of shit who gasses out after 15 minutes and is highly ineffective (proven by his being embarrassed by Civoniceva & Scott in Origin). Justin Poore is a sorry excuse for a player, and proof that Parramatta have more dollars than sense when they paid big money for him. Costigan was always a solid player. Jamie Soward was a great U20's player and was always going to excel in first grade, regardless of his coach. I bet the Roosters are still ruing how they let him slip through their ranks, much like we do with Thurston & Hayne.
He was one of NSWís better performers. They should have persisted with him. Poore was injured and completely fell off.


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:If Bennett wanted to prove how great a coach he is, then why didn't he take up the challenge of bringing a premiership to the Shire, which is akin to finding a needle in a haystack?
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Old 02-28-2012, 05:36 AM   #142 (permalink)
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I'm sorry Mr Stats, but what exactly did Weyman do under Bennett? He made rep sides sure but did he contribute much on the field? Did he make the tough yards like a prop should? No. Costigan and Soward were always decent players and yes Wayne Bennett helped them to shine but they had that substance behind them. No matter how good your coach is, unless you have that talent then no matter what he does you will fail.
What is it exactly you think Weyman does? Of course he does the hard yards. He's easily one of the best props in the game.

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No one is doubting Bennett, he is the best coach of the modern era by a long way. What we are doubting is the asinine notion that the Knights will instantly gel and be moulded into a minor premiership winning side. That will take time.
Knights winning the minor premiership might be a surprise, not a shock. I see no reason not to think the Knights will win the comp during Bennett's time.
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Old 02-28-2012, 05:45 AM   #143 (permalink)
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Yeah in Bennett's time they could win. First year? absolutely not.

Weyman doesn't make the hard yards, he's fat, slow and lazy. He takes 2 good hitups a game and spends the rest of the time he's on the field catching his breath. He is one of the most overrated players in the game.
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Old 02-28-2012, 06:00 AM   #144 (permalink)
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Yeah in Bennett's time they could win. First year? absolutely not.
I said minor premiership. Don't get ahead of yourself.

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Weyman doesn't make the hard yards, he's fat, slow and lazy. He takes 2 good hitups a game and spends the rest of the time he's on the field catching his breath. He is one of the most overrated players in the game.
I didnít know anyone else was rating him. If they were, we wouldnít have seen King and Snowden get destroyed in the first game. Their marker play and lateral defence was atrocious.
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Yeah in Bennett's time they could win. First year? absolutely not.
This. I've been a Newcastle supporter my whole life, but not even I think they'll win the comp this year, and I know 99% of Knights fans realise that for any team, winning a premiership takes time. But last year, we had a very good side, which would've finished higher than 8th if it wasn't for the injury toll IMO (at one stage, 14 of the top 25 squad was out injured). I think top 6 would be the aim for this year, with top 4 a possibility. But I don't think a minor premiership/premiership is on the cards this year.

As for Weyman, he tries hard, and I wouldn't call him lazy, but he's probably not Origin good. Although, off the top of my head I can't think of many NSW props who knocked down the door last year.
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Minor premiership is harder to win than the final. Minor premiership shows you are the best team over the course of the entire season. Once you're in the finals, anything can happen eg Warriors last season.
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