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Old 02-28-2012, 03:43 AM   #131 (permalink)
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You are clueless. I'll enjoy it at the end of the year when the Knights are struggling to make the 8 and you have egg on your face.
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Old 02-28-2012, 03:47 AM   #132 (permalink)
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You are clueless. I'll enjoy it at the end of the year when the Knights are struggling to make the 8 and you have egg on your face.
Watmough a better defender than Harrison? Ja ja. Weren’t you the one talking about players not running at Tony Williams? Holy hell!
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Old 02-28-2012, 03:54 AM   #133 (permalink)
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Did i ever once say he was a better defender? Absolutely not. I said he was a better player which he is. You are the one with the defense fetish, you have no concept of a player with a well rounded game and you value defense (with no consideration for metres gained by a forward) far more than anything else as that is the only explanation as to why you rate Weyman. Tony Williams was a back for his entire career bar the 2nd half of last year and you tried to bring up his defensive stats and capabilities like a moron who doesn't even watch the game but instead reads the stats column for each player.
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Did i ever once say he was a better defender? Absolutely not. I said he was a better player which he is. You are the one with the defense fetish, you have no concept of a player with a well rounded game and you value defense (with no consideration for metres gained by a forward)
It's about balance. I certainly wouldn't go into an Origin game with three of Hindmarsh, Johnson, Fensom, Stagg or Luck in my back row. With that said, I couldn't possibly trust Watmough to start the game even if I did accommodate two of those guys.


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Tony Williams was a back for his entire career bar the 2nd half of last year and you tried to bring up his defensive stats and capabilities like a moron who doesn't even watch the game but instead reads the stats column for each player.
You don't say. Mate, when people are calling for guys like Tony Williams to represent NSW, it's pretty clear why you guys are being buried.
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Old 02-28-2012, 04:21 AM   #135 (permalink)
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Williams was called for in the centres tbh.

If we had a full roster to pick from, I'd go with Lyon & Cooper as our centres this year. However, both are unavailable, so we'll probably get Jennings/Lawrence.

Regarding Buderus, I hope he goes great guns as I have in my fantasy side
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Lol at you doubting Bennett. The guy made St George a machine, one that consistently played to a very high standard. Look at what the likes of Weyman, Poore, Costigan and Soward did under him. He contributed immeasurably to them all being rep level players (Costigan previously at the Broncs). You think Poore would be playing reserve grade under Bennett? Costigan having a mediocre season in the second row instead of playing prop? Out of those three seasons, they were arguably the most consistent side. He freakin’ had two minor premierships (for one major prize) in three seasons. No coach has done that at a new club after winning six at another. Newcastle fans have a lot of good times ahead. It should come as no surprise.
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Old 02-28-2012, 04:31 AM   #137 (permalink)
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All I want to say is, GO ST GEORGE!
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Old 02-28-2012, 04:55 AM   #138 (permalink)
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Lol at you doubting Bennett. The guy made St George a machine, one that consistently played to a very high standard. Look at what the likes of Weyman, Poore, Costigan and Soward did under him. He contributed immeasurably to them all being rep level players (Costigan previously at the Broncs). You think Poore would be playing reserve grade under Bennett? Costigan having a mediocre season in the second row instead of playing prop? Out of those three seasons, they were arguably the most consistent side. He freakin’ had two minor premierships (for one major prize) in three seasons. No coach has done that at a new club after winning six at another. Newcastle fans have a lot of good times ahead. It should come as no surprise.


Bennett gave guidance to a team of great players who needed that experienced, level head to guide them to premiership glory. They were consistently making the finals and always a genuine threat for the title. Newcastle, however, have been utter tripe since 2001, and no injection of Boyd at fullback or Bennett being coach will rectify that as quickly as delusional Knights fans or Bennett cockriders would belive it to happen. The one 'good' player from the Hunter since that premiership is Kurt Gidley (and last year Uate), and the rest are just...trash.

Weyman is a fat, lazy sack of shit who gasses out after 15 minutes and is highly ineffective (proven by his being embarrassed by Civoniceva & Scott in Origin). Justin Poore is a sorry excuse for a player, and proof that Parramatta have more dollars than sense when they paid big money for him. Costigan was always a solid player. Jamie Soward was a great U20's player and was always going to excel in first grade, regardless of his coach. I bet the Roosters are still ruing how they let him slip through their ranks, much like we do with Thurston & Hayne.

If Bennett wanted to prove how great a coach he is, then why didn't he take up the challenge of bringing a premiership to the Shire, which is akin to finding a needle in a haystack?
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Fuck me our props suck ass this year, Snowden and Cuthbertson? One the joint most overrated, lethargic, fat and unfit alongside Weyman (Snowden) and then the other who's ALWAYS been a giant sack of shit (Cuthbertson). Seriously, how is this fat bastard still getting signed by teams? He's so bad.

And as for NSW, you can't go past Douglas and Hunt. Best prop choices. Imagine if Snowden/Weyman was the prop line.
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Old 02-28-2012, 05:17 AM   #140 (permalink)
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I'm sorry Mr Stats, but what exactly did Weyman do under Bennett? He made rep sides sure but did he contribute much on the field? Did he make the tough yards like a prop should? No. Costigan and Soward were always decent players and yes Wayne Bennett helped them to shine but they had that substance behind them. No matter how good your coach is, unless you have that talent then no matter what he does you will fail.

No one is doubting Bennett, he is the best coach of the modern era by a long way. What we are doubting is the asinine notion that the Knights will instantly gel and be moulded into a minor premiership winning side. That will take time.

^ Adam, how is it that the Broncos fan is talking you guys up and worshipping bennett and your signings (lolcuthbertson) far more than you?
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