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**Fandango** · 06-23-2012, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by -Mystery-

Word is Parise and Crosby have been communicating similarly to LeBron and Wade a few years ago.

Parise is priority 1 since they've loaded up on defense and if that falls through, Suter is Shero's number 2. However, the Red Wings seem to be heavily invested in Suter along with the Preds of course.

What do you mean "loaded up" on defense? Drafting a couple of teens last night doesn't change anything. Those guys aren't a sure thing to make the NHL and even if they do they're still years away. You also traded a top 4 dman for scraps. This is the same team that allowed 30 goals in one playoff series this year.

X-Spot · 06-23-2012, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JM

@ X-Spot: I meant more for a team looking to acquire him. He's worth paying a lot for when you got 3 years of him until he needs to be resigned.

Ahh okay, but I do know the price is high, they were asking the Flyers for JVR (not possible now obviously), and Sean Couturier OR Brayden Schenn (maybe also a draft pick to be involved) while the Blue Jackets were asking for all 3 of them for Rick Nash, both teams want the trade to be centered around Brayden Schenn which the flyers had said they do not want to trade him, and really have been looking to shop JVR for two years now which is why this trade has happen, but I don't see the Flyers being done with some moves they want to make.

**-Mystery-** · 06-23-2012, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Alim

What do you mean "loaded up" on defense? Drafting a couple of teens last night doesn't change anything. Those guys aren't a sure thing to make the NHL and even if they do they're still years away. You also traded a top 4 dman for scraps. This is the same team that allowed 30 goals in one playoff series this year.

Signing Suter doesn't change anything either lol, which is why it makes more sense to sign Parise than Suter. The team is loaded with defensive prospects (last night plus Joe Morrow, who was drafted last year). Adding Suter to the mix doesn't all of a sudden change the problems in Pittsburgh, the defense is still going to rely heavily on Fleur to bail them out hence why you sign Parise and wait a year or two for those defensive prospects to pan out then make serious Cup runs with young guns like Crosby, Malkin, Parise, and Neal with a stacked defense.

**Fandango** · 06-23-2012, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by -Mystery-

Signing Suter doesn't change anything either lol, which is why it makes more sense to sign Parise than Suter. The team is loaded with defensive prospects (last night plus Joe Morrow, who was drafted last year). Adding Suter to the mix doesn't all of a sudden change the problems in Pittsburgh, the defense is still going to rely heavily on Fleur to bail them out hence why you sign Parise and wait a year or two for those defensive prospects to pan out then make serious Cup runs with young guns like Crosby, Malkin, Parise, and Neal with a stacked defense.

Why add a goal scoring winger when clearly scoring goals is not the problem? Pens were first in the league last season in terms of goals for and we all saw that they could score in the playoffs. Defense needs to be addressed and now that one of your top 4 has been traded for scraps it is an even bigger priority and Shero knows that. He didn't move a defenseman just so he could have more cap space to sign a forward. He did it to have more cap space to sign Suter.

**-Mystery-** · 06-23-2012, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Alim

Why add a goal scoring winger when clearly scoring goals is not the problem? Pens were first in the league last season in terms of goals for and we all saw that they could score in the playoffs. Defense needs to be addressed and now that one of your top 4 has been traded for scraps it is an even bigger priority and Shero knows that. He didn't move a defenseman just so he could have more cap space to sign a forward. He did it to have more cap space to sign Suter.

Suter will not fix the problems that plague Pittsburgh, it's that simple. Do you really think the Pens have a better chance to win the Cup now with Suter or in a few years once these defensive prospects pan out with Parise? The point is moot anyways because Shero doesn't really have a shot at Suter and he knows that. Also, the Pens have been looking for YEARS to find someone to play wing with Crosby and this is their chance. Either way, Suter or Parise is coming to the Pens and that's fine by me. I'm glad my team has a luxury like that.

JM · 06-23-2012, 05:29 PM

Why are the Pens so far away from a cup right now to begin with? Last year they were "odds on favourites" for the cup and now they aren't close enough to be favourites when they add the top UFA defenceman. They are easily in a position to have a win now attitude...

**Rockstar** · 06-23-2012, 05:29 PM

Pretty happy with the JVR for Schenn trade. A lot of my fellow Leaf fans have been calling for Schenn to get traded out for a bit now and we have a surplus of defence talent in Toronto so he won't be missed. I'm glad we got a big forward in JVR. Too bad we didn't get a centre, which we desperately need, but JVR should be a welcome addition to the Leafs lineup.

JM · 06-23-2012, 05:31 PM

I'm laughing pretty hard at all the idiots on facebook reacting to the Leafs trading Schenn.

Plus calling for Burke's head for trading a UFA THEY WEREN'T GOING TO RESIGN AYWAY and actually getting something for him.

**Rockstar** · 06-23-2012, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JM

I'm laughing pretty hard at all the idiots on facebook reacting to the Leafs trading Schenn.

Plus calling for Burke's head for trading a UFA THEY WEREN'T GOING TO RESIGN AYWAY and actually getting something for him.

Yeah a lot of them are pretty silly. I think Burke is doing a good job, he's making things happen and it looks like he has a plan that he's working towards. Things don't just happen, they need time and work and smart moves. Smart moves which we know Burke is capable of, I mean he got the Sedin twins with a plan and smart moves, he can do something for the Leafs too.

**ItsWhatIdo** · 06-24-2012, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by -Mystery-

Word is Parise and Crosby have been communicating similarly to LeBron and Wade a few years ago.

Parise is priority 1 since they've loaded up on defense and if that falls through, Suter is Shero's number 2. However, the Red Wings seem to be heavily invested in Suter along with the Preds of course.

And if they both fall through, then Shero is a moron for not waiting until they actually had someone signed to trade their only reliable defender. Wish the Caps could have gotten Michalek for jack shit.

Other players dislike Crosby. Maybe they put it aside for his talent, but his peers voted him the biggest whiner in the NHL. Typically, players won't go play with someone they think is a bitch.