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Old 10-13-2011, 07:16 PM   #171 (permalink)
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Default Re: NHL thread. 2011-12 season.

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Like I said, they needed a superhuman performance from Tim Thomas last year.

Lets look at Boston's top 6. Not really sure the line combinations but I'll assume it's something like: Lucic, Krejci, Bergeron, Horton, Recchi, Marchand. And then the Flyers: Giroux, Briere, Jagr, Van Riemsdyk, Voracek, Hartnall. Am I the only one who would quite easily rather have the Flyers.

Montreal and the Devils are not better, simply put. The Devils have absolutely no depth at all. Who's their number 1 centre? Rangers always find a way to lose.

Your evidence for the Habs is precisely true of the Flyers too. They are always in the mix.
How does it make sense not to have the reigning cup champions as #1? Bruins should be unanimously #1 at this point in the season

Kovy, Parise, Elias, Sykora, Clarkson, Tedenby, Zubrus. It's been better in the past, but it is still above average. Zajac is their #1 center, but he's injured atm.

Flyers are always in the mix, but Montreal didn't change their entire outlook of their team in one off season. This is the point I am trying to get across.
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Old 10-13-2011, 07:18 PM   #172 (permalink)
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Bruins can hardly score. Don't see how they can be number 1. In fact the only team they scored a lot against was the other team you said was really good, the Lightning, which have been shredded so far this year by goals.
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Because the Bruins did nothing to improve their team while pretty much every other contender in the east did. It's a new season. Given the line-ups I see the Flyers being better. If Tim Thomas plays like he did last year then it could be a different story.

Flyers retooled and have given quite capable guys a bigger role. Jagr is a great pick up. As old as he is he can still go. They got the best goalie available in the off-season and the best goalie they've had since before Ron Hextall. I wouldn't really say the changed the entire outlook and if they did it's to actually having a goalie they can be confident in which it only a good thing.

Devils have nothing going on D, at all. Brodeur is in the twilight zone. Forwards are either injury prone, aging or just not that great. I'm not sure how you can say the Devils top 6 are better than the Flyers top 6. I guess you just don't value some of them very high.

Habs have a terrible defence. Even when they get Markov back he's only 1 guy. They lost 2 of their best in the off-season and didn't replace them.
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When you trade your captain (best forward) and a 40 goal scorer for an 18 year old fresh out of the draft prospect, and two other guys who have only been third liners (thus far) in their careers, I would say that is changing the entire look of a team. Add that to the fact that they finally have a good goalie (only improvement they've made for the present imo)

I didn't say Devils top 6 > Flyers top 6. The Devils have two of the best forwards out of both teams. Flyers have more depth. It's a wash.
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They haven't had a goalie that's that capable of winning games for a team when they are having a bad game. Now they do. They have big expectations for guys like Giroux, van Reimsdyk and Voracek. They aren't exactly bad guys to have big expectations for. Giroux is on the cusp of being a top forward in this league. Schenn isn't even playing right now. They aren't rushing him.

Your focusing really only on who they gave up. Take a good look at who they still have as their is still a lot of talent there.
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Is Brodeur hurt because he isn't playing in the LA game anymore?
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Is Brodeur hurt because he isn't playing in the LA game anymore?
Left after the 1st with a upper body injury.
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