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Hawks vs Avs in Western Conference finals, plz.

I'ma try to watch more hockey this year than I did last season (and pretty much every season since Roy retired/ESPN stopped carrying hockey).

Do work, hockey fans.
 
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Not sure how Alain Vigneault is going to do in New York. I think he's a decent coach and all but the expectations are high. They were in Vancouver, too. I wonder if Brad Richards stays? If Dallas is serious about making Tortorella their coach, I could see a weird reunion between a bought out Richards and Torts in Dallas. Hockey is strange sometimes.
 
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Well it's official now. Rangers fans will be very happy with AV as head coach. He's the polar opposite of Torts. The guy is very calm in front of the media and behind the bench, he will be a breath of fresh air. The Rangers have quite a few good defensive forwards and a solid defense with a great goalie. They will excel under AV.

Unfortunately he went way past his expiry date in Vancouver. The players tuned him out, but he's a Jack Adams winner and has pioneered a number of aspects of coaching that others are now starting to use.

And people were saying Messier was going to be head coach... :lol
 
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Ovi winning the hart made me :mark: tbh. I really hope he continues playing well next season and can utilize his talents to their potential so the best player in the world can be debateable again.
Meh. Still think Sid should of won, if he doesn't get his jaw broken he wins in a landslide, congrats to Ovie though. Sid won the Lindsay anyway so i'm not complaining. Hopefully Ovie will actually show up for the whole season next year.
 
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Ovechkin shouldn't have won MVP. Play like shit the first 3 months then show up in the 4th doesn't make you MVP. Crosby shouldn't have won it either. The only candidate that played great CONSISTENTLY all year was Tavares.

And the Pens seem destined to become the Canucks of the East. You don't stack the team the way Shero did, get swept then make ZERO changes. Fleury and Bylsma both should've been shown the door (Bylsma more so than Fleury). Also, Malkin's outrageous contract WILL comeback to haunt this franchise. I've been a Pens fan my entire life and I really don't like where this franchise is headed.
 
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Ovechkin shouldn't have won MVP. Play like shit the first 3 months then show up in the 4th doesn't make you MVP. Crosby shouldn't have won it either. The only candidate that played great CONSISTENTLY all year was Tavares.

And the Pens seem destined to become the Canucks of the East. You don't stack the team the way Shero did, get swept then make ZERO changes. Fleury and Bylsma both should've been shown the door (Bylsma more so than Fleury). Also, Malkin's outrageous contract WILL comeback to haunt this franchise. I've been a Pens fan my entire life and I really don't like where this franchise is headed.
How is his contract outrageous?? He makes 800k more than his current contract and when it kicks in the cap will be going up again, what did you expect to sign him for?? any team in the league would kill to have Malkin on their team for that price.
 
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Malkin's trade value is higher because he's a more valuable player than Letang. If Letang really wants 8 million per, that's only 1.5 less than Malkin so I don't get the argument about being able to sign Kunitz, Dupuis, and Letang over Malkin. Dupuis is going to get $3-4 per between 2-4 years. Kunitz should be able to get similar, if not more.

I'm a Letang fan. He picked up points in the playoffs but if you watched him play, he turned the puck over entirely too much and got caught out of position a lot. The Penguins have an abundance of young defensemen coming but no centers anywhere close to Malkin or Crosby or even Sutter. I would have serious reservations about giving Letang that much money long term. I think the worst thing that happened for the Penguins was how rapidly he developed offensively over the past couple years. He's priced himself out of Pittsburgh.

Also, I found it really funny that the NHL's leading scorer, MVP, and Rookie of the Year came out of the Southeast Division. You would think it was a juggernaut.
 
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Malkin's trade value is higher because he's a more valuable player than Letang. If Letang really wants 8 million per, that's only 1.5 less than Malkin so I don't get the argument about being able to sign Kunitz, Dupuis, and Letang over Malkin. Dupuis is going to get $3-4 per between 2-4 years. Kunitz should be able to get similar, if not more.

I'm a Letang fan. He picked up points in the playoffs but if you watched him play, he turned the puck over entirely too much and got caught out of position a lot. The Penguins have an abundance of young defensemen coming but no centers anywhere close to Malkin or Crosby or even Sutter. I would have serious reservations about giving Letang that much money long term. I think the worst thing that happened for the Penguins was how rapidly he developed offensively over the past couple years. He's priced himself out of Pittsburgh.

Also, I found it really funny that the NHL's leading scorer, MVP, and Rookie of the Year came out of the Southeast Division. You would think it was a juggernaut.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
 
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I used to be the biggest Paul Martin basher around but the guy played stellar last year. Total 180 degree turn from the past couple years. I say let him play out his contract. That being said, I don't think Martin's trade value would be terribly high. He eats minutes and plays solid. He's still a bit overpaid, just playing much better than when he first arrived in Pittsburgh.

I agree that Malkin had turnovers in the playoffs, too, but he's not a defenseman. Forwards have a little more leeway with that stuff. Letang would turn the puck over when he was the last guy back and that's a problem. His decision making was awful. The worst part was that neither guy sat a single shift for turnovers, bad penalties, etc. That's a coaching problem but Bylsma got an extension so that's a moot point, too.

If Letang's salary ended up in the area of 6.5 per, I say bring him back. Mike Colligan wrote a very good column about Letang that is kind of the same place I was coming from: http://thehockeywriters.com/kris-letang-contract-negotiations-part-one/

I think the Pens need to get younger next year because it's time to crap or get off the pot with some of these guys. I want to see Bortuzzo, Despres, and maybe even Dumoulin or Harrington playing minutes on D. Same with Bennett in the top six up front and try out some guys like Uher, Thompson, Sill, and Payerl in the bottom six. The Pens didn't trust any of their young guys last year. Look at both Boston and Chicago, guys like Shaw, Saad, Krug in the lineup as regulars.
 
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I used to be the biggest Paul Martin basher around but the guy played stellar last year. Total 180 degree turn from the past couple years. I say let him play out his contract. That being said, I don't think Martin's trade value would be terribly high. He eats minutes and plays solid. He's still a bit overpaid, just playing much better than when he first arrived in Pittsburgh.

I agree that Malkin had turnovers in the playoffs, too, but he's not a defenseman. Forwards have a little more leeway with that stuff. Letang would turn the puck over when he was the last guy back and that's a problem. His decision making was awful. The worst part was that neither guy sat a single shift for turnovers, bad penalties, etc. That's a coaching problem but Bylsma got an extension so that's a moot point, too.

If Letang's salary ended up in the area of 6.5 per, I say bring him back. Mike Colligan wrote a very good column about Letang that is kind of the same place I was coming from: http://thehockeywriters.com/kris-letang-contract-negotiations-part-one/

I think the Pens need to get younger next year because it's time to crap or get off the pot with some of these guys. I want to see Bortuzzo, Despres, and maybe even Dumoulin or Harrington playing minutes on D. Same with Bennett in the top six up front and try out some guys like Uher, Thompson, Sill, and Payerl in the bottom six. The Pens didn't trust any of their young guys last year. Look at both Boston and Chicago, guys like Shaw, Saad, Krug in the lineup as regulars.



Ray Ferrero doesn't think too highly of Paul Martin
 
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Boston should be up 3:0 in this series in my opinion
They only need to win 4 out of 7 and they've got the inside track. The Bruins are very good in one goal games. You have to admire that. They are totally committed. Boston makes all the little plays correctly and with stunning efficiency.

Ray Ferrero doesn't think too highly of Paul Martin
He was absolutely right at the time. Believe me, I was the biggest Martin basher around when he first signed in Pittsburgh and for the two years after. This year, he was much more poised with the puck and eliminated the egregious mistakes that plagued him since he became a Penguin. Simplified his game a ton. It even took me half of this half season (so a quarter of a traditional season) to admit it. Management even leaked the story about GM Shero asking him if he wanted a trade last year because things weren't working and Paul said he wanted to fix his game as a Penguin. It bought him a lot of currency with the fans here because he was a big time scapegoat for the last two playoff exits.
 
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I'm going to be highly disappointed if Boston wins the Cup, but as much as I hate to say it, they do deserve it.
 
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Apparently sources say Ilya Bryzgalov is not being bought out by the Flyers and Daniel Briere is. I don't like to do this but I agree with this decision by the Flyers. Bryz was not the problem last season. They can also buy him out next year under the compliance buyout if he regresses or if Steve Mason gets his game back together.

Also on the goalie front, it looks like the Kings are going to deal Jonathan Bernier. Really this time. Call me crazy but I think he's a great fit in New Jersey for the future. Let him split the time with Brodeur for a year. Trade or buyout Hedberg if you have to.
 
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