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Old 04-16-2012, 10:23 AM   #28471 (permalink)
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Best Goalkeeper: Hart

Best Defender : Kompany

Best Midfielder: Scholes

Best Forward: RVP
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Old 04-16-2012, 11:00 AM   #28472 (permalink)
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On Britton, valid points have been made by both Seb & Andre. The position Britton plays is vital to a lot of successful teams nowadays. His job is to retain the ball, and retaining the ball is hugely important to any team. It tires the opposition, it stretches teams, it allows chances to be created & most importantly it is one one of the best defensive tools a team has. Britton is excellent at what he does, but I don't think he does enough to be considered the best player in the league for his position. For example, compare Arteta & Britton, both play the same position for their sides albeit in different ways. In the PL, Britton on average makes 63 passes per game with a 93.1% PA. Arteta on average plays 79.5 passes per game with a PA of 90.1%. I'm also fairly sure Arteta has played the most passes in the league, and the most accurate ones. Both very impressive, but considering Arteta is a lot more ambitious with his passing and gets forward more it's no surprise there's a drop in PA. Arteta does a lot more defensive work than Britton too, he makes tackles and interceptions more often and has also chipped in with 6 goals and 2 assists in the league, not a bad tally for someone who plays as our deepest midfielder. Arteta is the better player in my eyes, but I've been an admirer of Britton this season. On Swansea as a whole, possession is great; but only if used efficiently. Case in point they dominated Newcastle in terms of possession, but how many times did they look like really scoring? There was little off the ball movement or on the ball creativity to ever make them look like scoring. Newcastle had no plan to go there and play football, because it's not going to happen 9 times out of 10. Newcastle were clinical with the couple of chances they had and walked out well worthy of their win, because their gameplan worked better than Swansea's, as simple as that. Compare it to Arsenal who overran City in terms of possession and they are very different games, we always looked threatening and used the ball well regardless of poor finishing. To Seb's question, yes, some teams have had more possession than Swansea at the Liberty: QPR(!), United, Chelsea (58%!) & Norwich.

EDIT: Shocked Chamberlain is a PFA YPOTY nominee. Ridiculous. If you're going to give it to an Arsenal player Theo is far more deserving. Aguero will win anyway, which is dumb. It should be 21 and under, 23 year olds commonplace as quality players these days, and considering he was 38m... not exactly a young emerging talent.

PFA Player of the Year nominees: Sergio Aguero, Joe Hart, Scott Parker, Robin van Persie, Wayne Rooney, David Silva. Just as ridiculous: Scott Parker being a nominee. Who the fuck did this list? Two shocking lists there.
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Old 04-16-2012, 11:20 AM   #28473 (permalink)
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How has chamberlain been nominated for YPOTY?, he has only played 13 games and probably most of those subs, the same number of games as Scholes has played, if scholes was nominated for POTY everyone would be complaining.

Also i would say de Gea is more deserving of being nominated for YPOTY, despite having a few shaky games, since the turn of the year he has been the best keeper in the league, and has the best clean sheet percentage.
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Old 04-16-2012, 11:20 AM   #28474 (permalink)
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Oxlade-Chamberlain? wut? How many starts has he made? Less than 10 surely?

Parker is just ridiculous, just knight him already and get the love-in over with.
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Old 04-16-2012, 11:21 AM   #28475 (permalink)
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will laugh hard if anyone other than kun wins ypoty award.
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Old 04-16-2012, 11:23 AM   #28476 (permalink)
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As an Arsenal fan I was the first to laugh at the inclusion of AOC. Pure hype for him to be included. De Gea having a great clean sheet % isn't just down to him, it's down to the way the team defends as a whole. On the whole Bale probably more consistent than last year, doesn't get a nom. Krul not getting a nom is laughable, considering he is actually eligible.

No-one else will win the YPOTY. It's a full gone conclusion as the POTY should be, although I fear this late scoring run from Rooney will see him get the nod for quite a few awards which would be totally unjust, but haven't players already done their voting anyways?
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Old 04-16-2012, 11:25 AM   #28477 (permalink)
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will laugh hard if anyone other than kun wins ypoty award.
tbh i think its annoying if he wins it, he was bought as a 23 year old and at 35m, i'd much rather see someone like walker or welbeck win it
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Old 04-16-2012, 11:25 AM   #28478 (permalink)
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Bale and Parker were both in my TOTY a couple of months ago, but not now. Parker was superb for the first half of the season but has dropped off since Xmas. Kind of like Nasri, Nani and VDV all did last season. Swap him for Valencia, and that's a good list.

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Old 04-16-2012, 11:28 AM   #28479 (permalink)
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Welbeck winning the YPOTY would also be a travesty. Aguero obv first choice. 2nd Krul or I riot. Szczensy, Song & Theo three players alone from Arsenal who are more deserving than AOC and would choose all 3 over Welbeck too. Pilkington definitely worth a nod too. Allen too!? So many more deserving players than a few on there.

@Seb, Silva tailed off after Xmas, but I suppose he is an exception considering he was one of the top players before it. As Mags said, Parker being included is the pure love in from most people associated with English football. Farcical inclusion considering those left out.
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Old 04-16-2012, 11:31 AM   #28480 (permalink)
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still dont understand the welbeck hype. see hardly any difference between he and sturridge except welbeck passes more often.
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