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post #691 of 6098 (permalink) Old 09-03-2011, 03:07 PM
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No I still think that came against us.

Isn't it getting kind of ridiculous the amount of big teams that cheat and screw over the smaller nations just because they were "supposed to win"? Annoying how nothing can ever be done about it.
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i laughed so hard when henry did that. usually fucking hate stuff like that, but it was the king.

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if it meant their country getting to the world cup, i'm sure every footballer would do it.

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Remember the World Cup game? Chile must be sick to their stomach of Spain.


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I see it as similar to when Pires dived against Pompey. Seeing the leg and going over it.
You mean where Pires kicked the guy and fell over?
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Isn't it getting kind of ridiculous the amount of big teams that cheat and screw over the smaller nations just because they were "supposed to win"? Annoying how nothing can ever be done about it.
It's quotes like these that make me have no sympathy for teams like Ireland and Scotland. The ref gets things wrong occasionally, sometimes it goes for you, and sometimes against you. There's no conspiracy, you guys just lost, deal with it. Not so much in Ireland's case, as at least they went for France, but I love it how the Scottish whinge about not getting to the Euro 2008, when every game they played 11 men behind the ball and just defended all game. Maybe if you actually attacked every so often, you'd get a dodgy freekick or penalty every so often too.

I'm so over the whole diving thing. It happens now and is part of the game. I always find zero tolerance to diving attitudes very funny. When a player goes down, if an opponent makes slight contact with them, it's fine and it's a penalty, but if there's no contact, it's a disgusting dive and the player is a cunt. A lot of the time when a player dives, it's because they're expecting contact, and they go down intentionally as to 'draw the foul' so to speak.

Also, the type of people who vilifies divers tends to glorify rough tactics and over physical play. To me a diver is no more a cheat than a 'hard man' who makes about 5 or so fouls per game.

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It's quotes like these that make me have no sympathy for teams like Ireland and Scotland. The ref gets things wrong occasionally, sometimes it goes for you, and sometimes against you. There's no conspiracy, you guys just lost, deal with it. Not so much in Ireland's case, as at least they went for France, but I love it how the Scottish whinge about not getting to the Euro 2008, when every game they played 11 men behind the ball and just defended all game. Maybe if you actually attacked every so often, you'd get a dodgy freekick or penalty every so often too.

I'm so over the whole diving thing. It happens now and is part of the game. I always find zero tolerance to diving attitudes very funny. When a player goes down, if an opponent makes slight contact with them, it's fine and it's a penalty, but if there's no contact, it's a disgusting dive and the player is a cunt. A lot of the time when a player dives, it's because they're expecting contact, and they go down intentionally as to 'draw the foul' so to speak.

Also, the type of people who vilifies divers tends to glorify rough tactics and over physical play. To me a diver is no more a cheat than a 'hard man' who makes about 5 or so fouls per game.
This is just the worst statement ever.

Scotland played defensively because they had to. They got drawn in a group with Italy & France. The two finalists of the previous World Cup. Some teams don't have the ability to go after teams, and its the perserverance that counts and is impressive. It shows real guts and heart. And to have all of this taken away from them by a hand ball, or a dive, or any terrible refereeing decision, it breaks the hearts of the nation. Maybe you don't understand if you have never been in that position, but when a small nation who aren't as well equipped, fight and fight and are determined to do their best, and then get screwed over just when it looks like they will succeed, then thats when it really hurts, and kills all of the players spirits.

Diving should not be part of the game i am not even going to try justify that statement because you know it is true.
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I support Australia, who are very much minnows of the footballing World. We also have many fans still whinging about going out to Italy in the 06 World Cup, even at the time I whinged, but I eventually got over it.

Also, I never said diving should be apart of the game, I just said it is part of the game.
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I'm so over the whole diving thing. It happens now and is part of the game. I always find zero tolerance to diving attitudes very funny. When a player goes down, if an opponent makes slight contact with them, it's fine and it's a penalty, but if there's no contact, it's a disgusting dive and the player is a cunt. A lot of the time when a player dives, it's because they're expecting contact, and they go down intentionally as to 'draw the foul' so to speak.

Also, the type of people who vilifies divers tends to glorify rough tactics and over physical play. To me a diver is no more a cheat than a 'hard man' who makes about 5 or so fouls per game.
You are talking so much sense here. When a player fouls another player that is cheating just like diving is. Fifa and the referees have created a culture where if you don't hit the deck you very rarely get a pen for being fouled. Players dive if they expect contact because they know a penalty won't be as likely to be given if they go down half a second after the contact.

Refs get decisions wrong, a lot can be done to improve this. I won't go into too much detail but some kind of video replay system should be used to help officiate.

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It's quotes like these that make me have no sympathy for teams like Ireland and Scotland. The ref gets things wrong occasionally, sometimes it goes for you, and sometimes against you. There's no conspiracy, you guys just lost, deal with it. Not so much in Ireland's case, as at least they went for France, but I love it how the Scottish whinge about not getting to the Euro 2008, when every game they played 11 men behind the ball and just defended all game. Maybe if you actually attacked every so often, you'd get a dodgy freekick or penalty every so often too.

I'm so over the whole diving thing. It happens now and is part of the game. I always find zero tolerance to diving attitudes very funny. When a player goes down, if an opponent makes slight contact with them, it's fine and it's a penalty, but if there's no contact, it's a disgusting dive and the player is a cunt. A lot of the time when a player dives, it's because they're expecting contact, and they go down intentionally as to 'draw the foul' so to speak.

Also, the type of people who vilifies divers tends to glorify rough tactics and over physical play. To me a diver is no more a cheat than a 'hard man' who makes about 5 or so fouls per game.
imo, if there is contact then it's a foul, and a penalty. refs seem to be a bit more wise to it now and if you go down dramatically there's a chance you won't get it though.

completely agree with the point i bolded.

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