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Old 03-29-2013, 09:38 AM   #3431 (permalink)
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if that's what they are referring to then yes. it doesn't have to be.
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Old 03-29-2013, 10:39 AM   #3432 (permalink)
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I assume you're just trolling, but the fact that Anton's name was brought up proves that there were racist overtones to the songs. Also it's worth noting that how a spontaneous song about both Rio and Anton even got started up. I can see how "Rio Ferdinand you know what you are" could be spontaneously sung by people that were annoyed with him rejecting England (which is a stupid stance to take, but stupidity isn't a crime). However the Rio and Anton songs sound like they were pre-planned, probably by a skinhead group I'd imagine. The only reason they would bring up Anton Ferdinand's name along with Rio is because they are both fighting racism in English football, therefore they are the enemy to these horrible people. This plays into things I've been saying for a long time now regarding racism in England. People in England know what words and language they can't use anymore, but it doesn't mean your country is free from any problems with regards to racism. There is still plenty of hate and discrimination that occurs in subtle or hidden ways.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21974280

So apparently these claims have been made on hearsay.

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The Daily Mirror also reported that England fans repeatedly chanted "Rio Ferdinand, we know what you are".

But Miles countered: "They were singing 'We know where you are' with reference to him being in Dubai."
I wouldn't be surprised if the bonfire chant reported was true tbh after the Anton/Terry problems and how Rio was linked in. It's a continuation of that I would assume from the despicable Chelsea fans & sympathisers perhaps that chanted the "you know what you are" at Anton. Obviously that's unacceptable and those responsible should be dealt with, but it appears it's a very small minority.

I don't think it's many fans but if you look at the problems with racism in English football compared to those in other European countries it's nowhere near as bad. It's not that I'm attempting to downplay it but I've been going to football here for over 20 years and never experienced anything other than the odd idiot chanting any racist abuse, and that's happened on less than a handful of occasions. You get small groups in all countries like the Chelsea 'skinheads'. You'll have them in Australia too I'm sure, but you don't see us trying to educate you on issues you have with racism.

Every time a story comes up you jump right on it and talk about the issue like you're some sort of expert on racism in England like you live here and experience the issues first hand when you don't, the same when it comes to telling people like Seabs & Rush that they don't understand football when clearly they do. Everyone's entitled to their opinion but clearly you have an over-inflated opinion of yours.

Your constant digs at English fans & media borders on racism itself. You rarely fail to hide your blatant contempt towards the English, over emphasising & speculating on what's rooted behind chants in this case. Maybe if you spent more time focusing on countries that have deep & continued racial issues you'd come across less of a prick yourself when it comes to English, yet you continually focus your energy on trying to educate us on the problems we have without any first hand knowledge and paint English fans & people as racist. When it comes to England fans in comparison to other countries, racist behaviour is incredibly isolated. Something you continually overlook in your apparent agenda.
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Old 03-29-2013, 10:43 AM   #3433 (permalink)
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Old 03-29-2013, 11:29 AM   #3434 (permalink)
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Can Ireland, Northern Ireland, Wales or Scotland adopt me for the rest of these qualifiers? . Yes i know they are all shit aswell.
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Old 03-29-2013, 11:42 AM   #3435 (permalink)
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21974280

So apparently these claims have been made on hearsay.



I wouldn't be surprised if the bonfire chant reported was true tbh after the Anton/Terry problems and how Rio was linked in. It's a continuation of that I would assume from the despicable Chelsea fans & sympathisers perhaps that chanted the "you know what you are" at Anton. Obviously that's unacceptable and those responsible should be dealt with, but it appears it's a very small minority.

I don't think it's many fans but if you look at the problems with racism in English football compared to those in other European countries it's nowhere near as bad. It's not that I'm attempting to downplay it but I've been going to football here for over 20 years and never experienced anything other than the odd idiot chanting any racist abuse, and that's happened on less than a handful of occasions. You get small groups in all countries like the Chelsea 'skinheads'. You'll have them in Australia too I'm sure, but you don't see us trying to educate you on issues you have with racism.

Every time a story comes up you jump right on it and talk about the issue like you're some sort of expert on racism in England like you live here and experience the issues first hand when you don't, the same when it comes to telling people like Seabs & Rush that they don't understand football when clearly they do. Everyone's entitled to their opinion but clearly you have an over-inflated opinion of yours.

Your constant digs at English fans & media borders on racism itself. You rarely fail to hide your blatant contempt towards the English, over emphasising & speculating on what's rooted behind chants in this case. Maybe if you spent more time focusing on countries that have deep & continued racial issues you'd come across less of a prick yourself when it comes to English, yet you continually focus your energy on trying to educate us on the problems we have without any first hand knowledge and paint English fans & people as racist. When it comes to England fans in comparison to other countries, racist behaviour is incredibly isolated. Something you continually overlook in your apparent agenda.
That is absolutely ridiculous. I'll be the first to admit that we have greater problems with racism here in Australia than you have over there in England. The reason I scrutinise the English heavily is because you are the first to throw stones at others without ever checking to see if your own house in in order first. When you throw these stones at Italy, Spain for example, you fail to consider that from a mass immigration stand point, they are 20 years or so behind you. So naturally when it comes to race relations, your going to be further advanced. But if you think back to what things were like in England in the 80s, before immigrant communities had become well established into the fabric of your society, there was rampant racism and skepticism of these people from another land. But as time has moved forward, along with some good social policy, things have improved since then. But you could still improve further. There is plenty of racial divide in England, and plenty of race hate still simmers under the surface, and I think you would do well to sort out those problems before throwing stones at other countries that haven't had as long a time to develop better race relations.
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Old 03-29-2013, 04:42 PM   #3436 (permalink)
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I prefer the rio ferdinand is a wanker chants

because you know, he is
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Old 05-28-2013, 10:59 AM   #3437 (permalink)
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Old 05-28-2013, 11:28 AM   #3438 (permalink)
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I think Gabby should have got a call up /sortofbiased

Really hope Woy drops Rooney and doesn't play Milner on the wing but i won't hold my breath.
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I think Gabby should have got a call up /sortofbiased

Really hope Woy drops Rooney and doesn't play Milner on the wing but i won't hold my breath.
Drop him down a hole or just from the team?
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Old 05-28-2013, 11:36 AM   #3440 (permalink)
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I think Gabby should have got a call up /sortofbiased

Really hope Woy drops Rooney and doesn't play Milner on the wing but i won't hold my breath.
Same here. The Ox getting called up too along with Danny 3% made me angry. Lescott too to a point when you think of players in all their positions playing regularly and playing well.
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