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post #2851 of 6098 (permalink) Old 11-15-2012, 08:13 PM
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how many strikers do step up on big occasions consistently though?

like reallym you could probably count the current ones who step up big time under pressure on one hand. there's some strikers who both do and don't perform on big stages. for example, rooney didn't score in either manchester derby's last season. but then there are other times where he has stepped up and scored important goals.

i'm sure that there are times in ibra's career where he has scored important goals. i think he scored in a couple of classico's, milan derbies, etc etc. those are still important games. it's just that he seems to have less consistency when it happens. or maybe it's just that in those 'big' games, someone else scores the goals?

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Joel and Seabs win the award for rubbish reading comprehension yet again. I wasn't saying Zlatan is as good as Ronaldo or that Ronaldo was a big game bottler or anything of the like. I was however debunking the myth that to be a top player you have to deliver big time in the European Cup, or indeed that Zlatan doesn't cut the mustard in Europe, depending upon your interpretation of the statistics.
No. You're just trying to make a point, but doing it in a ridiculous way.

You're trying to use Ronaldo's stats in the Champions League to justify the status you are desperate to put on Zlatan. The point is Zlatan does not do it at the highest level. Be that top games in the league, latter stages of the European Cup, or do or die games for Sweden. He doesn't do it.

It's not solely about the European Cup, so using Ronaldo as an example was daft. What you should do is look at Zlatan's goal tally for the knockout stages of the Champions League. I believe he has something like 3 goals... Ronaldo scored 3 goals alone at Old Trafford in the Quarter Finals of the 2003 competition... Continue to compare the two though.
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if someone else has been scoring this big goals then he would have won the champions league by now

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sometimes it's just the way the ball bounces.

does that mean all the teams he's played with have players that can't score big goals either?

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Best goal I have ever seen, no question. I'd like to see those biased hacks in the English media try and say he's 'overrated' now. No England player would have the balls or the talent to try anything like that. Also, this game pretty much proves what I've suspected all along, Joe Hart is extremely overrated and get's such an easy ride from the press. His performances in the UCL have been dodgy at best bar the game vs Dortmund. It's a friendly, why not put Forster in? As for England, we were fine until we made those substitutions, always ruins the flow of the game and we struggled after they came in.

What a performance from Ibra though, I'd love to see him play in England, too good for Ligue 1.
Really?

It was good but best goal ever? come on, hop off ibra's cock now.


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sometimes it's just the way the ball bounces.

does that mean all the teams he's played with have players that can't score big goals either?
no, but i find its rather amusing how alot of his ex teams often find success after hes gone

like i said, its merely a pattern one can draw from looking at the stats

its like with dzeko, it makes no sense, but somehow hes at his best scoring as an impact sub. but not as effective starting.

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Like which ex teams exactly? Only Barcelona and Inter found success after he left because Barcelona had many great players already like Messi, Xavi, Iniesta and they bought Villa(who is better than Ibra and his syle of play suits Barcelona) and they weren't dependent on Ibra. Inter spend a lot of money after they sold Ibra to buy Milito and many other great players, plus they got Eto(who was a better player than Ibra at that time)+60 million.

Look at how Milan is struggling this season after they sold Ibra.





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Dude has 3 knockout stage goals. Fucking three. All against Arsenal as well. THREE KNOCKOUT STAGE GOALS. And you don't expect him to be questioned?

I remember how much junk he was vs Spurs in the 2011 Last 16. And people want to call this guy world class.

Talent is only half of it people. If you fold like a bitch when that big moment comes, then what use is all that talent?
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Don't know what I was getting at with that post right after the nose himself's goal

Was pretty sweet though.
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Like which ex teams exactly? Only Barcelona and Inter found success after he left because Barcelona had many great players already like Messi, Xavi, Iniesta and they bought Villa(who is better than Ibra and his syle of play suits Barcelona) and they weren't dependent on Ibra. Inter spend a lot of money after they sold Ibra to buy Milito and many other great players, plus they got Eto(who was a better player than Ibra at that time)+60 million.

Look at how Milan is struggling this season after they sold Ibra.
Both teams won the champions league when he left

if anything hes holding teams back

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