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11-08-2012, 09:24 AM
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JR11
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Re: International Matches Discussion Thread
What a fucking joke. It's great Osman's got a call up at last but it's too late like Seabs said. At least he's there on merit unlike Shelvey, Sturridge & Bertrand. Bertrand especially, what a piss take. Only the other week on Soccer Saturday they were talking about players from big clubs getting in the England squad because of their club and not their form. Those three aren't anything close to being regulars. Sterling you can make a strong case for because he's in form and playing every week and Adam Johnson isn't doing anything at Sunderland right now.
I don't think Wenger will be too happy to see Wilshere in there and I don't know if it's too soon. He's quality and the future of our midfield so it's a tough one to judge. Shelvey getting in ahead of Mark Noble for example say is ridiculous. Bertrand's the worst of the lot. At least if Moses was called up you can say he's got real talent and looks like being a decent international player.
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11-08-2012, 09:25 AM
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Crumbled
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Re: International Matches Discussion Thread
Kyle Walker, Ryan Bertrand, Jonjo Shelvey, Jack Wilshere and Daniel Sturridge don't deserve to be there. But whatever, it's international football.
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11-08-2012, 09:49 AM
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Re: International Matches Discussion Thread
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Good for Osman. He deserved a call up years ago. Bit late and pointless now as he probs wont feature and he wont be part of the first team plans long or short term most likely so it is kinda pointless. Shelvey in back to back England squads is embarrassing. Sturridge being only one of 3 strikers is a bit of a joke too, especially given how well Crouch has started this season. Be nice to see Sterling start on the left too.
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Osman deserved his spot & Crouch 2 replace Sturridge. Not happy Wilshere in the list he's not 100% fit. Bertrand-Shelvey is crap rather bring Oxlade-Chamberlain but he's injured.
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11-08-2012, 10:07 AM
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JR11
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Re: International Matches Discussion Thread
Carl Jenkinson to be called up too now when his Fifa clearance comes in. Out of the Arsenal team and into the England squad! 
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11-08-2012, 10:17 AM
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Asking Meltzer to rate my matches
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Re: International Matches Discussion Thread
Shelvey in the squad again 
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11-08-2012, 12:03 PM
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Re: International Matches Discussion Thread
Shelvey? 
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11-08-2012, 12:05 PM
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Asking Meltzer to rate my matches
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Re: International Matches Discussion Thread
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Shelvey? 
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11-08-2012, 12:08 PM
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Re: International Matches Discussion Thread
I'ma just copy and paste what I just said about Shelvey's inclusion on another forum:
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Shelvey is distinctly average. But then again, so are all the other English central midfielders. So it doesn't matter.
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It's the truth. It doesn't matter who comes in. They are going to do the exact job as all the others. There's no outstanding option.
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11-08-2012, 12:09 PM
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The Man without Fear
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Re: International Matches Discussion Thread
Bertrand isnt so bad
I mean he's not great, got shredded last night but seeing as Cole is out, might as well include him
You know what this is? this is racism man. people are just scared they have to deal with another 8 years with a black man as left back. just like they booed Cole all the way
for shame england, for shame
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11-08-2012, 12:15 PM
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One. More. Year
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Re: International Matches Discussion Thread
Who cares if Bertrand is called up? He's not going to play. Baines clearly will.
Sturridge I can understand why people question this. He hasn't played many minutes and when he has, he has sucked. He may get minutes, so yeah, he should not be in the squad.
But Bertrand or any other left back that isn't named Baines aint gonna get 1 minute, so why bother to whinge?
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