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post #2391 of 6098 (permalink) Old 10-12-2012, 08:30 PM
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Where did I mention anything in regards to the game? To say Welbeck and Cleverley aren't international class was where my issue with the statement was. It may be a bit soon for Cleverley as he's only played about 20 first team games and I'm certainly not on the "new Scholes" bandwagon however he's looked impressive this season is small bursts but Welbeck looks like he could be really good if he figures out how to score into open nets. I've seen Shelvey play about 3 times and he's scored a good goal in one of them and was sent off in the other, so can't really comment on him.

Typical Arsenal fan though - seeing something different to others.
Oh come on, you can't tell me you ain't are chuffed with this win, every other United fan on the internet is.

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Cleverley and Welbeck not international class? For a nation where Francis Jeffers and David Nugent have international caps, where Emile Heskey has 62 fucking caps. Tell me, when could you not have been worried about England's future?
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England is still ways off of other countries

Its not just the system, its the players

They arent good enough. I look at Germany, Spain, Brazil, even Italy and I see the sheer amount of talent bolstering through their ranks, its astonishing. If Reus or Mata were english theyd be called better than Messi. All the english have is his holiness Jack 'hasnt played a game in 15 months' wilshere

Part of it is just looking at the squads, the teams that top the league, the Manchesters and the Chelseas and Arsenals have very few englishmen, in contrast to the lower teams bolstering with them. And even looking at those teams, you'll see the best players of those squads are usually not the English

Meanwhile in Spain, Germany and Italy, the elite clubs are still loaded with superb local talent. For example Germany's squad today all are champions league calibre Dortmund, Bayern and Madrid players. Players that start regularly for the best clubs on earth and have familiarity. Same with Spain, its basically Barca with Madrid and Jesus to fill up the ranks. All the best from the highest clubs and leagues.

And then you have England, where its basically filled with liverpool players, lower league guys, some old people, and the manchester united bench

In 2004 to 2010 England had a generation of players that maybe could have been called some of the best on earth, but now, they dont even have that. They have a retarded FA, players who seem to hate working together, and a genuine lack of world class English players. Why? Where have they all gone? What the hell is shelvey doing out there? In what universe is that enough to take on the major European squads

The FA needs to pull their head out of their ass and fix this. Instituting more english players in clubs wont help because all most clubs just use them to fill up the quota and reserves and rarely play them. The key is fixing the youth development system. Spain, Germany, Holland, Italy and south America and even france somehow found a way to develop world class players. The Barca, Ajax and Dortmund academies are almost miracles. They dont just develop club talent, but they develop international ones

The FA and english clubs need to sort this out. Why arent English players as good as foreign ones? Why do English clubs dominate europe meanwhile England never makes it to Semis?



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Joe Cole, i really did like him. But lolengland

How much did they pay for Reus in Dortmund again?
13/14 million which is an incredible price for last years Bundesliga player of the year (I think), don't think any other team would of been able to sign him though as he was brought up in the Dortmund academy and he loves them.
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ok seriously guys, watch this match

each side is playing 3 strikers, a shit midfield, everyone is out of position, its hilarious

jesus, if messi has to play any deeper hes gonna be buried with those chilean miners again

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Oh come on, you can't tell me you ain't are chuffed with this win, every other United fan on the internet is.



Don't diss the GOAT.



Why do you care what 'every' United fan thinks? They're just happy that Welbeck and Rooney got some goals (at least I am). I'm glad we got a win, one which was inevitable, but I'd have liked to have come close to doubling the actual score.

I'll always care far more about club football than international football (with the World Cup as a rare change to that) so I'll never be too overly excited about any England win outside of a tournament.

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0-0 half time.





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Falcao scored two today I see. He has scored in every match he has played this season except the first La Liga fixture. This includes interntional. Insane.
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Messi scores. 1-0 to Argentina.





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Re: International Matches Discussion Thread

Germany got lucky last night.

I also think Bale is a cunt. A chimp-like, diving, heart-sign celebrating, poor man's Valencia, overrated, big-eared massive fucking cunt.

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Germany got lucky last night.

I also think Bale is a cunt. A chimp-like, diving, heart-sign celebrating, poor man's Valencia, overrated, big-eared massive fucking cunt.
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Re: International Matches Discussion Thread

Dat under the wall free kick



4 free kick goals already this season. Argentina have been free flowing and excellent since the first goal, when Uruguay opened up. No idea why they've sat back so much, they look dangerous going forward, particularly Suarez. The second Argentina goal was great as well, they really look to be going places now they've sorted their defence out.

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