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Old 11-12-2011, 10:45 AM   #1461 (permalink)
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Ohh great that horrible creature adrian chiles still does the footy on itv.

Fabregas hair hahaha wtf has he done to it.


No adam johnson (is he even in the squad btw)
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Argentina is just one of those teams right now like England, Brazil & France especially that even with all the star credentials they just can't seem to do it. It's not just Messi the whole Argentina side just doesn't seem to be able to do it. I'd still place Messi as the best right now despite the fact that he isn't as effective with his country.
true, but why, the cannot be unlucky all the time. they have great players
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Casillas; Arbeloa, Ramos, Pique, Alba; Busquets, Alonso, Xavi; Silva, Iniesta, Villa

That midfield is unreal.
That midfield is gonna result in a ridiculous amount of possession. I'm excited for this, hope Spain destroy England.

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messi is considered the world best right? but he does not perform with his country, take xavi and iniesta away from midfield and he wont perform as good as he does with them. look how is he playing for his country, same for cristiano, he also does not perform for his country, argentina could not even beat bolivia on buenos aires, even peru can defeat bolivia without difficulty in their home country.
edit: england can win cause spain does not care about friendlies anymore. i predict england 2-1 spain
Argentina as a whole is a wreck, if you watch Messi play in Argentina he still shows brilliance but not at the same level as Barca because the chemistry of the team is weak. No one man can be blamed for a team that doesn't click well.

Teams like Spain Germany and Holland are unified so they dominate and their star player shine. Where as players like Messi, Ronaldo, Rooney etc...are all frowned upon at the international level. But Argentina is definitely the worst example as they are loaded with talent, more so than Portugal or England.
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Old 11-12-2011, 10:53 AM   #1464 (permalink)
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Ohh great that horrible creature adrian chiles still does the footy on itv.

Fabregas hair hahaha wtf has he done to it.


No adam johnson (is he even in the squad btw)
I believe Adam Johnson is on the bench today
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Portugal still use postiga? nuff said
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Old 11-12-2011, 10:57 AM   #1466 (permalink)
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true, but why, the cannot be unlucky all the time. they have great players
Its not about having great players. You need a system. And when you call up the number of players Argentina have in the last year your never going to find one.

They've had 11 different goalkeepers in the squad in the last 12 months.

39 different defenders
41 different midfielders
24 different strikers

then they wonder why they cant get a side to gel.
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Old 11-12-2011, 10:58 AM   #1467 (permalink)
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Wales dispatching Norway with relative ease, who are something like 25th in the world as of the current rankings. Really excited to see where the potential of this young team goes. Ramsey's looked immaculate on the ball as well Stringer, seems to be growing in confidence with every game, had one lovely bit of skill evading two defenders which resulted in a penalty appeal.
I watched the game, Wales definitely have potential. Bale and Ramsey are two natural players that England would love to have. Then there are other young players coming through the ranks like Allen and I expect them to being more through like that. I definitely fancy them to make the next Euros. Edit: On Ramsey, he was very good in possession, but was quiet in the second half, particularly at the start. He always looked too deep, he should be a bit more advanced.

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That midfield is gonna result in a ridiculous amount of possession. I'm excited for this, hope Spain destroy England.



Argentina as a whole is a wreck, if you watch Messi play in Argentina he still shows brilliance but not at the same level as Barca because the chemistry of the team is weak. No one man can be blamed for a team that doesn't click well.

Teams like Spain Germany and Holland are unified so they dominate and their star player shine. Where as players like Messi, Ronaldo, Rooney etc...are all frowned upon at the international level. But Argentina is definitely the worst example as they are loaded with talent, more so than Portugal or England.
I know, we'll give the ball away a shit ton and Spain will just troll in possession. They could beat us by 6 if they wanted, don't think they will have to get out of second gear to beat us today. Someone on Twitter posted a 4th choice line up that would still give England a good game.

Walcott MAY have some joy against Alba, looking at the line up. Walcott needs to be on his game, if he is his usual self he will be poor.
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Its not about having great players. You need a system. And when you call up the number of players Argentina have in the last year your never going to find one.

They've had 11 different goalkeepers in the squad in the last 12 months.

39 different defenders
41 different midfielders
24 different strikers

then they wonder why they cant get a side to gel.
That is ridiculous, there is experimenting and then there's that crazy shit.
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true, but why, the cannot be unlucky all the time. they have great players

It's nothing to do with luck. Messi is a great player but he can't do it all himself. The reason teams like Spain, Holland & Germany are so good is because they have great teamwork as well as great players. Even when you look at Urauguay right now. They don't have the same amount of quality players as Argentina but are still bossing it because of teamwork. Even with England always had good players but teamwork has sucked for years. Even in the prime of Lampard & Gerrard the way they played for their clubs back a few years ago they should have been an ugly midfield lineup to go up against but it just never worked for some reason.

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@Gunner. Didn't realise Argentina swapped their sqaud around so damn much fuck. It's no wonder they can't do shit when your basically switching your sqaud around nearly every match.
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Old 11-12-2011, 11:01 AM   #1470 (permalink)
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Really 39 defenders? i can't think of many good ones if i'm honest


And spain team is made up of 9 players from 2 clubs and then silva and alba.

England 8 different clubs i think.
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