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Gunner14 · 10-13-2011, 02:25 PM

Spain England Portugal ireland would be very tasty with the locality of the pairings. So many different dynamics that are interesting why i love the euros.

to piss me off we'll get Poland England Denmark Czech Rep

haribo · 10-13-2011, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Gunner14

Thought the hosts both went into pot D. Like at the world cup.

Weren't South Africa in the first pot? I was pissed that France got the easy draw with them instead of an actual heavyweight. Not that it mattered in the end because France were hopeless.

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When is the draw?

Beginning of December.

alfonsaaberg · 10-13-2011, 04:22 PM

It dosen't matter what the groups will be, no matter what Denmark will be victorious in the end!

haribo · 10-13-2011, 05:29 PM

yeah1992

**Nige™** · 10-13-2011, 06:49 PM

I wonder if the quality of the opposition we get in our group will make Capello question whether or not to take Rooney. There are some people already questioning whether we should take him, and considering he'll miss all the group games and maybe a 4th game if we appeal unsuccessfully, it does raise an issue as to whether he should go or not.

As it's Rooney, the head screams he should go but he will be taking up an extra place that may go unused and we may need an extra striker if one gets injured. It does send a bad message to the other squad players too that he's gone even though he's not available for the entire group campaign.

It's an interesting one and you can see the shitstorm either way. If he goes and we go out at the group stage, it'll be like "why did he take Rooney when he couldn't play?"

**Jobbed_Out** · 10-14-2011, 02:53 AM

Poland, Germany, Russia & France (Group WW2!)

Ukraine, England, Sweden & Ireland

Spain, Italy, Greece & Cech Rep

Holland, Croatia, Portugal & Denmark

My picks based on the groups Steamed Hams posted.

BTW, Rooney deserved the ban and I can't see why people like Phil Neville are complaining on twitter. He lost the ball couldn't win it back and lashed out, his temprement has improved over the years but that was a brain fade.

**Joel** · 10-14-2011, 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Nige™

I wonder if the quality of the opposition we get in our group will make Capello question whether or not to take Rooney. There are some people already questioning whether we should take him, and considering he'll miss all the group games and maybe a 4th game if we appeal unsuccessfully, it does raise an issue as to whether he should go or not.

As it's Rooney, the head screams he should go but he will be taking up an extra place that may go unused and we may need an extra striker if one gets injured. It does send a bad message to the other squad players too that he's gone even though he's not available for the entire group campaign.

It's an interesting one and you can see the shitstorm either way. If he goes and we go out at the group stage, it'll be like "why did he take Rooney when he couldn't play?"

Argentina would still take Messi. Portugal would still take Ronaldo. Spain would still take Iniesta and Xavi. Hell, they even took a damaged Torres to the World Cup and he isn't even that important to them.

England has to take Rooney. But I do understand it's a risk.

Gunner14 · 10-14-2011, 05:40 AM

We don't have to take Rooney at all they guy f~cked up at every tournament he's ever played in.

leave him home take a striking 4 of Sturridge, Welbeck, Defoe, Bent. we're most likely only going to play 1 anyway. After the 7 games (including friendlies) the 11 will be settled and it would be stupid to bring Rooney in just to help us lose the Quarter final.

Send Rooney to the Olympics to help our u23's win gold.

**united_07** · 10-14-2011, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Gunner14

We don't have to take Rooney at all they guy f~cked up at every tournament he's ever played in.

leave him home take a striking 4 of Sturridge, Welbeck, Defoe, Bent. we're most likely only going to play 1 anyway. After the 7 games (including friendlies) the 11 will be settled and it would be stupid to bring Rooney in just to help us lose the Quarter final.

Send Rooney to the Olympics to help our u23's win gold.

erm euro 2004? he was easily england's best player in that tournament, and probably would have been top scorer if he hadnt have got injured

Vader · 10-14-2011, 06:11 AM

Lets not take our best player because he was poor at 2 previous tournaments and replace him with Defoe.

I'm sure that's how managers think. Although Gunner sharing the same opinion as Stan Collymore comes as no surprise.