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The reason would be that at the moment you get close to f*** all tournament advantage for finishing top of your group. Sometimes it's even better to finish second in the group.
But there should be no tournament advantage. Its simple top two go through. its not like the qualifiers where top goes through 2nd goes into play offs. you have 3 games to ensure you finish in the top 2 of your group. Nothing else matters.

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Fair enough I guess, that's just my view on it. There are other more crucial changes I'd like to see that will probably never happen under Blatter/Fifa. Euros is definitely a quality tournament though.

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I agree about our youth system - we do have some promising youngsters though, and yes, most of them from United. I personally think that apart from Germany and Spain, we've got a good chance of beating anyone at the Euro's. Not saying we're the third best team at the tournament, it just depends how the draw goes. Can't see anyone beating Spain though, they're already up there with Brazil 70 and the 50's Hungary side, they may well go down as the greatest international side ever. They've got their best ever striker, and several players that will go down as all time greats (Casillas, Xavi, Iniesta, maybe Puyol) by the time their careers end.
Isn't Raul ahead of Villa? Villa has a better record but Raul carried Spain for years.

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that line up looks terrible going forward, and isn't maggio a winger?

i'd take de rossi for the england team though, and buffon (even now, we have no keepers outside of hart).
Buffon would easily start over Hart. Great record in the Euro qualifiers, still top drawer. de rossi would walk into the team over parker.

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they're very good players, but not legends. and totti wasted his career at roma.
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No, Villa has 50 in 80. Raul got 44 in 102. He didn't really carry them either, they didn't win anything with Raul, and have both Euro 2008 and World Cup 2010 since dropping him.
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we have wilshere. pirlo from 5 years ago maybe.
Not one of your better posts.

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Not one of your better posts.
Thanks for that pointless, sweeping statement.

Wilshere is a similar player to Pirlo, and Pirlo was a great player 5 years ago but no so much now. Does context confuse you?
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Thanks for that pointless, sweeping statement.

Wilshere is a similar player to Pirlo, and Pirlo was a great player 5 years ago but no so much now. Does context confuse you?
I wouldn’t even have a go at someone for saying the Pirlo of today is a better player than Wilshere, much less the Pirlo of 5 years ago. He was comparable to Xavi and Iniesta FFS. Wilshere is many, many rungs below.

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I wouldn’t even have a go at someone for saying the Pirlo of today is a better player than Wilshere, much less the Pirlo of 5 years ago. He was comparable to Xavi and Iniesta FFS. Wilshere is many, many rungs below.
This is the same Wilshere who looked very much on a par with Xavi and Iniesta at the Emirates.

But once again, great job not understanding the context of what I was saying. I suggest you go back and read what I said again and what I was responding too. Nowhere did I say Wilshere now is better than Pirlo of 5 years ago.
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Got Ireland for the play-offs. Fantastic. Can I get a w00t w00t?

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Turkey vs Croatia
Estonia vs Ireland
Czech vs Montengro
Bosnia vs Portugal

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