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post #1071 of 6098 (permalink) Old 10-10-2011, 11:43 AM
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Re: International Matches Discussion Thread

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Christ no to Jones as a right-back. He was horribly exposed in Montenegro. He should be a nailed on starter at CB hopefully by the Euro's anyway.

I'd never pick Agbonlahor either, unless he knocks in at least 20 EPL goals this season.
Unfortunately I don't see Capello picking Jones at centre back but he should do. I'd have Smalling as first choice at right back for sure.

Agbonlahor's started the season on fire and if he carries on the way he is, I'd take him all day long. He's strong, exceptionally quick, good in the air and can finish. The fact he plays with Bent too at club level and Rooney is suspended, he's a ready made replacement for him.

Welbeck & Sturridge aren't as experienced as him and they're still first team regulars. I'd definitely prefer Agbonlahor to Welbeck who I think will be the back up when Hernandez isn't fit at United. I like Welbeck but he's playing in a team where scoring goals isn't exactly difficult with the players around him. Agbonlahor's scored some fine goals all by himself, most notably against us & Wigan.
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Re: International Matches Discussion Thread

Hart

Richards - Ferdinand - Terry - Cole

Parker
Gerrard - Wilshere

Sturridge - Rooney - Young


This is what I'd like to see depending on a few things:

1 - Ferdinand obviously must be fit. If he is, he will see more game time alongside Vidic than Smalling and Jones (who I would have on the bench)

2 - Hopefully by June, Gerrard will be back to his best. But he's nort getting any younger so let's see.

3 - Hopefully Wilshere will return ariubd Feburary/early March and find his best form quickly. He's crucial, imo.

4 - For Sturridge to get this place, he's going to have to learn and adapt throughout this season. This is his position at Chelsea right now and sometimes he looks great, other times he look meh. That isn't a problem right now due to age. Hopefully by June he will be a constant threat out there.

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Wilshere won't be back till April.

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Re: International Matches Discussion Thread

England could actually build something quality with Wenger at the helm. Redknapp screams of "meh".

Here's my team:

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Richards - Rio - Terry - Cole
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Gerrard - Wilshere
Walcott - Rooney - Young


I have a sneaky feeling Sturridge will have a great season this year and possibly take that right wing for his own. AOC will be very, very interesting to see this year IMO. Looks to be building some solid foundations and with a decent run could give Walcott some competition down the right, which would surely see him enter Capello's plans.


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Hart

Richards - Ferdinand - Terry - Cole

Parker
Gerrard - Wilshere

Sturridge - Rooney - Young


This is what I'd like to see depending on a few things:

1 - Ferdinand obviously must be fit. If he is, he will see more game time alongside Vidic than Smalling and Jones (who I would have on the bench)

2 - Hopefully by June, Gerrard will be back to his best. But he's nort getting any younger so let's see.

3 - Hopefully Wilshere will return ariubd Feburary/early March and find his best form quickly. He's crucial, imo.

4 - For Sturridge to get this place, he's going to have to learn and adapt throughout this season. This is his position at Chelsea right now and sometimes he looks great, other times he look meh. That isn't a problem right now due to age. Hopefully by June he will be a constant threat out there.
That's without a doubt the shape we've got to go with. Hopefully Gerrard will be fit but even if he's not, Lampard or Cleverley will be in form to step in. Wilshere is the big worry though as I think he's already the key one in that midfield trio. Without him we'll look very ordinary.

There's no doubt Ferdinand's class but his best days are gone. Saying that we did miss him at the World Cup but having Jones & Smalling ready to fill in it won't be an issue. Rio's had so much difficulty staying fit and getting match fitness going in to a major competition is so important.
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Re: International Matches Discussion Thread

IMO, if Rio strings some games together before the Euros, him starting shouldn't be a debate. Will be a key player. Jones at RB will be a nightmare if it happens.

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Re: International Matches Discussion Thread

Tomorrow night, the task ahead is absolutely massive.
Not only will Scotland need to bring the game to Spain, but Charlie Adam will need to pass better than Xavi.
Uh oh...
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Re: International Matches Discussion Thread

Wish I'd seen the England game now. Was Jones really that bad? He's not a right back anyway so it's not a big surprise. Smalling is a better option though in that position but I'd have Jones starting at centre back unless Rio hits form and is match fit. I can't remember the last major tournament we had him fit, might've been 2006. Terry's always been there if I remember rightly.

Anyway I'd go with this with fitness taken into account:

Hart

Smalling - Jones/Ferdinand - Terry - Cole

Parker
Wilshere/Cleverley - Gerrard/Lampard

Rooney - Bent - Young



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Tomorrow night, the task ahead is absolutely massive.
Not only will Scotland need to bring the game to Spain, but Charlie Adam will need to pass better than Xavi.
Uh oh...
You can just forget about a result in your game. Your only hope is the Czech Republic don't do anything in Lithuania.

I hope Ireland secure second spot without Keane. I didn't know Armenia were in third and had a shot of grabbing second too. Makes that a bit interesting. After the last Play Off campaign, Ireland deserve all the luck in the world.

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Re: International Matches Discussion Thread

He didnt have the best of performances, but it must have been difficult for him, making his england debut out of position playing with players he's never played with before. He hasnt really put a foot wrong when he's played at right back for united.

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Re: International Matches Discussion Thread

He was awful, and toyed with at times, Jovetic went round him 3-4 times in the same move at one point before Jones just fell over. Most of Montenegro's attacks came down the left in the second half and he didn't look natural in that position at all.

It was unfair to play him on debut, away from home, out of position, marking their best player. He's going to be quality, no doubt about it, but definitely NOT as a right back. Start him alongside Terry in the centre at the Euro's, as Terry will inevitably play and Rio will inevitably be injured.
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