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**-TheEnigma-** · 08-08-2008, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by I luv Mickie James

Stoke are coming bottom, no two ways about it that I can see

The only thing i can see saving Stoke at the moment, is the fact they are quite like the old Bolton sides, difficult to break down, heavy pressure and tackling and have no shame in playing long ball football all day long.

**NCIH Damage** · 08-08-2008, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by KME

I'd like to know your justification for Chelsea, Blackburn, Pompey and Newcastle being so low

And Nasri and Vela are good enough to make their own chemisry. Hleb was woeful the season before last, even Novus, his biggest mark here, acknowledged how average a season he had. It only took him a few months to build up a relationship with Cesc, same as Cesc and Flamini. Gilberto had always partnered Fabregas before, but good players can gel together, it's Football, different things can work.

I don't like Chelsea. So, that was bias. Blackburn lose Bentley and Friedel. Pompey...well, they'll be a quality side. Just not better than the sides above them. Though, looking at what Everton did(or didn't do) during the off-season...they could drop out of the UEFA Cup spots. It's tough to gage how the mid-table will play out. Newcastle...they weren't very good last season and it looks like they didn't do anything to improve the team. And I don't like them. Makes for a prediction of 16th place.

I hope Nasri and Vela gel quickly with the squad...but I'm still nervous about it. Maybe this is a bad example, but Henry had his problems early with Barca last season. They can happen.

**KME** · 08-08-2008, 02:29 PM

Blackburn still have a pretty good team, Friedel wasn't irreplacable. With the right guidance, Robinson is better.

Pompey bought Crouch. Crouch + Defoe = success. They are a bit of width away from being a top class side.

Newcastle didn't improve? Gutierrez? Coloccini? Guthrie? And they started playing very well towards the end of the season with Owen, Martins and Viduka in a front 3.

**Role Model** · 08-08-2008, 02:30 PM

Fabio's goal for the reserves last night was rather

I'm sure it'll get put on Youtube soon enough.

**-TheEnigma-** · 08-08-2008, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by NCIH

I hope Nasri and Vela gel quickly with the squad...but I'm still nervous about it. Maybe this is a bad example, but Henry had his problems early with Barca last season. They can happen.

Nearly everyone that leaves Arsenal struggles to find the same form they had at Arsenal. Henry had the team fitted around him and was the focal point of the team at Arsenal, whilst at Barcelona he is just another player in a system that doesnt suit him.

Man Utd Fan · 08-08-2008, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Role Model

Fabio's goal for the reserves last night was rather

I'm sure it'll get put on Youtube soon enough.

Against Northwich? It was pretty good.

I luv Mickie James · 08-08-2008, 02:43 PM

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Nearly everyone that leaves Arsenal struggles to find the same form they had at Arsenal.

Anelka?

**-TheEnigma-** · 08-08-2008, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by I luv Mickie James

Anelka?

Remind how many different clubs has Anelka been at since leaving Arsenal and how succesful has been at these clubs.

Trust me 21 million for Anelka is some of the best business Arsene Wenger ever did.

Let's see he went from being a league champion at Arsenal to

Flopping at Real Madrid
Went back to PSG
Had a so so loan spell at Liverpool
Played for Man City
Then Fenerbahce
Then Bolton
and now Chelsea where he has hardly been a regular and has scored 2 goals.

Yeah his career really went better after leaving Arsenal.

I luv Mickie James · 08-08-2008, 02:59 PM

Let's see he went from then league champions Arsenal to

Won the Champions League at Real Madrid
Won Euro 2000 with France
Went back to PSG
Had a fucking great spell at Liverpool, almost taking us to the title
Was the main man at Man City, scoring 38 in 89, which is a quality record in a shit team
Then scored quite a few at Fenerbahce
Then was the main man at Boltonm scoring 21 in 53, which again, is good is a shit side
and now Chelsea where he has showed some of the best form of his career in pre season, scoring 4 goals against AC Milan

Not that bad eh?

**-TheEnigma-** · 08-08-2008, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by I luv Mickie James

Let's see he went from then league champions Arsenal to

Won the Champions League at Real Madrid
Won Euro 2000 with France
Went back to PSG
Had a fucking great spell at Liverpool, almost taking us to the title
Was the main man at Man City, scoring 38 in 89, which is a quality record in a shit team
Then scored quite a few at Fenerbahce
Then was the main man at Boltonm scoring 21 in 53, which again, is good is a shit side
and now Chelsea where he has showed some of the best form of his career in pre season, scoring 4 goals against AC Milan

Not that bad eh?

Yeah he was a big part of the Real Madrid success, i wonder why they got rid of him so quickly he was a huge loss.

His spell at Liverpool was so good that when you had the chance to sign him you turned him down.
Forgive me for not thinking much of the Turkish league.
Yeah i'm sure fighting relegation battles and midtable battles with Bolton & Man City really was the highlight of his career after winning the premiership.
Well shit me he's performed in Pre-season, it means nothing.

Lets see when he was at Arsenal he was being touted as the player Henry became at Arsenal, but he left Arsenal and then Arsenal went on to win a few league titles and F.A. Cups and went a season unbeaten, whilst Anelka was helping Bolton & Man City stay up and whilst he was collecting a pay cheque at Fenerbahce.

I wonder if he is still worth the 21 million Real Madrid paid Arsenal for him, me thinks not.

Anelka was supposed to have the career Henry has had, instead he spent most of it at teams battling relegation.