[Ste]

Nah, you need 16 or more aways last season to get tickets

Hopefully my mate breaks his leg or something and I'll be there

[Emperor DC]

Originally Posted by Role Model

No, why would they? They won't be winning the title, but they certainly won't be going down.

The word going around is that if 'FRANK' gets sent back and goes down, City won't be able to cope. Apparantly, the money he has spent has been more than people think. People are saying he is desperate for investors because he can't afford to keep the club running and a real clear out will be needed.

It's all rumor, but seems to be backed up by the happenings of the last few days.

[Role Model]

Still, on the pitch, they'll be fine.

[Emperor DC]

Well, not if they are cleared out they won't.

They won't cope without Richards, Dunne, Jo, Benjani, Johnson and so on.

[Role Model]

That won't happen though.

[Man Utd Fan]

Originally Posted by Ste

Agreed.

It's bullshit how it looks like our number of away fans will be delpleted this season. At Sunderland we're only allowed 2,400 for health and safety reasons instead of 3,000 due to our persistant standing there last season

We got a 1200 allocation from Sunderland last season.

Although Pompey have given us an extra thousand tickets for this year.

City are fucked and i love it. All the money will get froze, players will get sold in January and they'll go down

[Emperor DC]

Originally Posted by Role Model

That won't happen though.

We'll see but it seems very likely to.

[Rex Regum]

That Tim fella absolutely butchered that Everton preview. He's giving them no where near their due credit. If their injuries subside then they'll be a quality again this season. Also, Cahill is far from their best player.

As for Totti and Scholes being underrated. In terms of pure technical skill and ability, Totti is unbelievably good. He's a very clever player too, he's powerful, and obviously an inspirational leader. However he's not a very complete player. He so little running in him, and has no defensive game. For him to succeed, the team he's in must be literally moulded around him, which is why he was never at his best for Italy. I also don't think he's as consistent as other world beaters are at their prime. When a team sticks a man on him, and the flow to him is cut off, he can have a very limited affect on games, and in that way he's very reliant on his team, whereas other greats can always find a way of creating things themselves. A modern day great, no doubt. He is under recognised, which is evident in his lack of any individual honours, but he's not universally underrated. A lot of people know just how good he is. Better than Del Piero, imo, not just now but throughout their careers.

As for Scholes, currently I don't think he's that great. I wouldn't call him a deep-lying playmaker either. He doesn't sit as deep as the likes of Carrick, Pirlo or Xabi do, but rather he just doesn't make forward runs. Also, another thing, how is Makelele as deep lying playmaker? He almost never passes the ball more than 15 metres, let alone playing a killer ball. I respect he does have a clever nous about his passing, and that he plays the ball perfectly to players in the best positions to exploit space, but that just adds to him as a holding midfielder. Players with a passing range are what I call a deep-lying playmaker.

Anyway, back to Scholes. I haven't seen him throughout the duration of his career, so it's hard to judge, although I will say that he was epic in the 2002/03 season, and I don't think he's ever been as good since then. Currently he still has brilliant ability with on the ball, but he's so limited in what he can do with it. He can hardly even make space for himself to unleash his great shooting ability any more and usually relies on loose scraps to show that. He does however still make play wonderfully and is a vital cog in Man Utd's past two league triumphs, however he can also be very thankful he's in a team with such energy and world class movement in attack so he can move the ball quickly, as otherwise he'd very easily get overrun by a good midfielder. Like Lassana Diarra

Oh, and he can't tackle

[KME]

Makelele is renowned as the deep lying play maker, because all moves start with him. He gets the ball rolling, when we were setting up against Chelsea in the Champions League, the first thought was always "How do we stop Claude distributing the ball quickly?". That's his role, he gets the ball out quick, it isn't about the range of his passes. He was involved in a great deal of Chelsea's goals, starting moves off. It was highlighted on Sky by Andy Gray and his magnificent machines many a time.

[Jamie1]

Role Model. What Emperor was trying to say is if this is all true about Manchester City then they aren't going to be able to hold onto top players and then there is every reason why they might go down or certainly more than why they would stay up.

How can you say if this was all true they players wouldn't leave. Do you think these guys are going to stay in a team who have no money to run there club and are really heading downwards and do you think Man City would keep them when they know they could make money on them such as Micah Richards, Richard Dunne, Jo, Elano, Martin Petrov and many more could make you good money.

On the situation of Totti and Paul Scholes being underrated. Do i think Totti is? No i certainly don't. I have a friend who is Italian and says he is very highly rated as one of the top players in there league and at the end of the day thats where you should be being rated a top star or not so good in the domestic league you play in. Other people from other countries not rating him i don't have a problem with as i am one of them and he is yet to show me why i would think different.

Paul Scholes is defintetly underrated in the other hand though to a certain degree. I think he is the kinda name were people will say do you not think Scholes is underrated but i think he is great and i think there is a lot more people who talk about him being underrated even though if you counted all of them up its a lot of people.