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My GOAT list:

1. Silva
2. GSP
3. DJ
4. Cruz
5. Jones

DJ, GSP and Jones have the opportunity to advance. DJ for sure will, but he needs money fights and grudge matches. He needs to move up and have fights with Cruz, Dillashaw and Garbrandt. GSP might depending on how his MW run goes. If he can take the title and defend it once or twice I'll put him at number one. Jones can advance too, but I believe being a professional fighter including being on a GOAT list involves more than just winning fights. He has shown on multiple occasions he cannot handle being a professional. Drug use (cocaine and marijuana), DUI, hit and run, and USADA violations, and he's not even 30? This guy would be my bonified number one if he wasn't such a loser outside of the cage. People probably are shaking their heads at Cruz on my list, but I honestly believe he deserves that spot. Watching that man fight has been magical.
 
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To be fair thats a stupid fight to make in 2017. Rockhold is a genuine Title Contender while Anderson is only fit for legends fights and fights against up and comers. Unless Silva can turn back the clock and most importantly fight seriously for the first time in years and years then Rockhold would smash his head in 19 times out of 20.
 
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In terms of global reach it's true that MMA doesn't touch boxing but in terms of pure excitement MMA without a shadow of a doubt. I always say the fighters are modern day gladiators, super athletes with exceptional technique in a number of discliplines. Give me MMA any day.
 
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It's worth noting that interest in boxing has been decreasing for a while. Boxing hasn't generated a PPV with 1+ million buys since Mayweather/Pacquiao. Meanwhile, the UFC has done it on several occasions, and has come close a bunch of other times.

Their TV ratings have also fallen short of what the UFC generates.
 
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^Yeah, I never knew how true the 'boxing is dying' murmurs were true or not because I never really looked into it, but that's something to think about.

To be fair it's easy to see why the Fertittas and Dana were so desperate to be mainstream. How is a corrupt sport full of individuals as greasy as boxing is, somehow more socially acceptable than MMA? Their positions in society should be switched, and with any luck in a few decades we'll see it happen, but still.

Also disclaimer: p4p is dumb and I hate it, but that said, isn't it weird to think about how hard TJ Dillishaw would tool, say, Conor McGregor? Bantamweight top 5 is kind of absurd with talent.
 
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isn't it weird to think about how hard TJ Dillishaw would tool, say, Conor McGregor?
How? They're 2 weight classes apart. That's like saying Conor could KO Nate Diaz. He can't! Diaz would eat the shots, carve him up, then choke him the fuck out.....

Boxing stopped producing 'best vs best at the right moment' long long time ago.
As well as there being 25 weight classes separated by 3 pounds each, multiplied by 6 "World" organizations, equalling too many fucking belts, some held by the same guys.
 
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MMA hour was crazy today. How is this thread dead right now?

I'm not against Cyborg vs. Anderson. There's rumors going around that Germaine may vacate due to personal issues.

On the other hand, Anderson Silva wants an interim title fight with Yoel Romero at 212. Romero wants it too. Bisping is going to throw a fit. :lmao

Honestly, I'm still not a fan of this GSP/Bisping garbage. I don't hate money grabs but when has the UFC ever announced a fight without a set date? Georges could've waited while Bisping fought a TOP CONTENDER in the mean time.

By the way, I'm really taking to Dominick Cruz lately. I've always had a strong distaste for the guy but his interviews have been on point. I'd like to pick up whatever the hell he's been reading in his downtime.
 
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WME and GSP are behind this, mang.

WME wants to get back the money they spent on the purchase in a hurry. On the other hand, GSP obviously looks at Bisping as an easy path to another divisional title.

You think GSP would dare ask for a title fight if Rockhold/ANYONE ELSE was the champion? Not a chance.

Hell, I can't say I blame Bisping for accepting. Big money fight at the end of his career. I do think he's full of shit for saying other middleweights would accept the GSP fight. They wouldn't have the option, motherfucker. :lmao
 
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On the other hand, GSP obviously looks at Bisping as an easy path to another divisional title.

You think GSP would dare ask for a title fight if Rockhold/ANYONE ELSE was the champion? Not a chance.
Just being GSP in the Octagon makes a ton for everyone. He doesn't need a title. But the big problem is that I don't think anyone would've objected to GSP coming back at 170. I said before, he's the uncrowned king. Imagine if Jon Jones had returned after he was stripped and said he wanted to face Werdum. That would spit in everyone's face at heavyweight. But getting a return shot at 205 is alright in everyone's mind. Then again, Jones gonna Jones.....
 
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Loved that special MMA Hour with Nate. He may be crude & crass but he's actually quite deceptively savvy underneath it all. Ariel was smart enough to just sit back and allow Nate to go on an epic rant.

It's crazy to me how the UFC never even approached Nick or Nate for 209. That was a no brainer.

Nate was completely right about Tony Ferguson dropping the ball after he defeated Rafael Dos Anjos. That was his opportunity to get his name out there and gain some exposure outside the MMA fanbase and he blew it big time.

I hope the UFC pull their finger out and make it worth Nate's while to fight Ferguson in July. I can completely understand where he's coming from, if he's going to be pulled out triathlon season then he should be fairly compensated, cause that's a source of income for him at the end of the day, and it's one that's less likely to leave you bruised, bloodied & battered after it.

The fact that Nate was the one who had to set up those Jimmel Kimmel and Conan O'Brian appearances speaks volumes. He was red hot after defeating Conor and they didn't want to capitalise. :no:

Oh BTW lel at the Boxing is dying BS. Especially with what just went down on Saturday night.
 
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