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post #4741 of 6323 (permalink) Old 01-11-2017, 04:57 PM
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I don't see anyone beating Nunes ever again. Unless someone can prove her cardio is still mediocre, which is hard to do because her power finishes ppl off quickly now.

Maybe Pena because her fighting style is weird and annoying, but
Holm could beat her if she decided to go back down to 135. Shevchenko could beat her in a rematch as well.

People need to realize that while Nunes has looked impressive in her last two fights, she was fighting two women who were on their way out of the sport.

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I don't see anyone beating Nunes ever again. Unless someone can prove her cardio is still mediocre, which is hard to do because her power finishes ppl off quickly now.

Maybe Pena because her fighting style is weird and annoying, but
I think Holly beats Amanda if they ever got it on. You can see from the Ronda fight that Holly is the perfect counter striker. Against both Meisha and Shevchenko she was the one going forward and it took a lot out of her game. I feel with the way Amanda applies pressure going forward and throwing strikes it would be a great match up style wise for Holly. Also a Shevchenko rematch would be interesting especially with the it being a 5 round fight. Pena could also cause Amanda trouble.

Amanda is probably the hardest puncher in the division but she is more than beatable. The victorys over Meisha and a mentally shot Ronda might have just created a bit of a false aura about her

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I don't see anyone beating Nunes ever again.
Simmer down. She's had an impressive year sure but lets not start acting like Miesha Tate and Honda were some fearsome fighters in the middle of their prime. Nunes has holes in her game that can be exploited, we've seen it in the past. That's not to say she's not a formidable Champion though. Lets just wait and see how she looks against the Pena vs. Schevchenko winner before we start getting carried away with hyperbole.

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Wonderboy basically saying he won't be so hesitant this time around. Start throwing them kicks dawg !
I highly doubt he does because that just opens him up to a takedown, and we saw when he got took down he didn't get up. It's easy to say you're going to do X, Y, and Z more in the build up. But after not being able to work with him on the ground and getting his bell rocked, I don't believe him for a second when he says he's going to be less hesitant. He could definitely KO Woodley, but at this point that's the only way I see Wonderboy winning. He's not as complete of a fighter as Woodley.
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I still think Tate is the best thing since sliced bread and Nunes beating her like she did was her greatest achievement

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I highly doubt he does because that just opens him up to a takedown, and we saw when he got took down he didn't get up. It's easy to say you're going to do X, Y, and Z more in the build up. But after not being able to work with him on the ground and getting his bell rocked, I don't believe him for a second when he says he's going to be less hesitant. He could definitely KO Woodley, but at this point that's the only way I see Wonderboy winning. He's not as complete of a fighter as Woodley.
I don't think he needs to use his kicks to try to KO Woodley, he just needs to use them to maintain distance and prevent Woodley from closing in. He didn't fight a typical Wonderboy fight at 205. He usually uses his footwork to keep his distance and he uses his lead leg side kick as a jab to jam the advance of his opponents, and from there, once he establishes that distance, he can start picking guys apart using his more impressive techniques and his wide variety of kicks.

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I don't think he needs to use his kicks to try to KO Woodley, he just needs to use them to maintain distance and prevent Woodley from closing in. He didn't fight a typical Wonderboy fight at 205. He usually uses his footwork to keep his distance and he uses his lead leg side kick as a jab to jam the advance of his opponents, and from there, once he establishes that distance, he can start picking guys apart using his more impressive techniques and his wide variety of kicks.
I know you can use different strikes with intentions besides offense. I think he didn't use his kicks at 205 because he was trying to minimize the chances for Woodley to grab a kick and take him down. Compound that with him learning that Woodley can be still be dangerous until at least the 4th round, from my armchair I just don't see any solid game plan to him winning outside of a KO. (Which as a long time fan I should know anything can happen but I'm fanning out at the moment lol). But I think Woodley turned the tables with that fight.

Initially I thought Woodley would just catch him and KO him. But in all honesty Woodley had a career making performance and showed that he had a lot more abilities than most thought. I was impressed with him being able to match Wonderboys striking, I was impressed that he didn't just brawl but kept on a strict game plan, and I'm sure everybody who's not a coach or teammate was surprised he was still functioning come the 4th.

I do think Wonderboy is elite, but without a ground game I just don't see many ways to victory for him besides KO. Woodley has shown WB has no answers for his ground game, and while he's clearly not the level of striker WB is Woodley showed that he's not the same fighter who was befuddled by Rory. I think Woodley switched the tables to the point were realistically we should be asking what can WB do to win this, WB should be the one with questions to answer this time.
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Wonderboy can definitely out point Woodley, not just KO him. In fact if he didn't get annihilated in the 4th round he would have been the new WW champion on points at 205, it's all ifs and buts obviously.

One thing I know is that Woodley is an elite fighter and I'll never doubt him again after KO'ing Lawler and almost doing the same to Wonderboy, it's an intriguing fight at 209. Hoping for a Thompson win since Woodley is such an unlikable dick but anything can happen.



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