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THE EUROPEAN FITBA THREAD THAT IS NOT MADE BY THE GUY WITH THE ODD VELVET SKY INFATUATION

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#1 ·
aka the competitions that taught me what countries european cities belong to.
 
#622 · (Edited)
I also found funny that some United fans, were claiming that winning the EL would be the "easier" way of playing UCL next year, teams like Porto, Dotmund, Sevillla, Napoli, Villarreal, Sevilla, Bilbao, Midtjylland well more than 10 teams have more posibilities of winning it
 
#1,022 ·
I nearly had a fucking heart attack celebrating Lovren's goal. Crazy, mad, amazing match. We were dead and buried and I really didn't think we would come back anything like that.

I'm not even thinking about the next round and atm, I honestly couldn't give a flying fuck because that is why I love football and Liverpool.

YNWA.

Thankyou. Made my fucking week.
 
#623 ·
United losing to a team whose name is basically one of those "fuck it, throw all the tiles in the air and see how they land" moments during scrabble with the in-laws. Giggsy's sitting fourteen beers deep in the corner and someone's decided it's time to stick on Wii Sport already. This is your 2016 Manchester United fitba club belated Valentine's Day celebration.

Big Louie's havin a party, bring yer vodka and yer charlie!
 
#904 ·
I'm finding the argument that Allegri handed the game to Pep and Bayern to be incredibly lazy analysis. It's simply not true.

Allegri tactically outwitted Pep for the first hour of the game by having Juve use two key phases of defensive play, in order to nulify Alonso and the default Pep tiki taka style.

First of all, Juve pressed high and hard from the front, swamping Alonso out of his deep lying playmaker position, sometimes having a diamond quartet of Juve players surround him in order to cut him out as a passing option. When he did receive the ball, he was often influenced to play the ball backwards, because he didn't have the pace or skill to progress forwards while being double or triple marked. This meant that the ball was often forced to Bayern's less influential centre backs, who were rushed into erratic passes and long balls, due to Juve's pressing. Hence Juve kept winning the ball back high up the pitch in the first hour.

Second of all, when Bayern DID manage to progress into the Juve half via short passes through central midfield, Juve dropped deeper, often double marking Ribery and Costa in wider areas, while flooding the zone 14 part of Juve's half (the D area of the penalty box, up to the sides of it touching the penalty box corners and just in front of it, where statistically most goals are scored and created). They allowed Alonso and Bayern's defenders as much time on the ball as they wanted, but it didn't matter because all of their passing options were cut out, meaning endless sideways passing without penetration. Even Ribery was forced out of position to collect the ball and try to influence the game. It made no difference.

Meanwhile, Juve always had the threat of Morata, Pogba and Cuadrado on the counter. This was another area where Alonso was struggling, with his lack of covering pace. Bayern were 2-0 down after 60 minutes and Pep was in big trouble.

That's when Pep changed the game, subbing Coman on for Alonso and moving Costa to a central position, while also making his team go more direct, looking to dribble from deep and cross balls into the Juve box.

Juve's high press was completely bypassed by Costa's brilliance through the middle of the pitch, where his short bursts of pace and sharp turns took out several Juve midfielders. This was aided by Ribery and Coman keeping the pitch wide and offering their own threats on the break. Juve were forced deeper and deeper, surrendering more dangerous territories of the pitch (read: zone 14 and inside forward positions), allowing Bayern into their area with direct play. They couldn't keep possession and were forced into long balls, where Morata was isolated high up the pitch and marshalled effectively by the Bayern centre backs. He was taken out of the game for those 11 minutes, becoming a non-factor.

Allegri had to make a change in order to get a grip on the game. He couldn't afford to allow Bayern so much possession for another 20 minutes against his tiring team, who were becoming more susceptible to mistakes while being forced deep, especially when Bayern had incredible guile on the pitch. Hence bringing on Mandzukic, who is a better long ball option. It made a slight difference in terms of having an out option, but it didn't stop Bayern exposing Juve in dangerous areas. The substitution was not to be blamed for the concession of two goals, although Allegri could have tried to bring on an extra midfielder to help protect the edges of Juve's area.

Going into the first half of extra time, Juve started to get a hold of the game again, with Mandzukic finding joy by holding the ball up in wide areas, taking pressure off the defence and allowing Juve to push higher up the pitch. Mandzukic also created by far the best chance in the first half of extra time, cutting back to Lichsteiner who was free in the box and should have scored. The game was even again, until Pep made his next sub.

By bringing on Thiago Alcantara for Ribery while switching Costa back out wide and returning to a short passing game, Pep was able to expose Juve's tired legs with a quick short pass and move game, pulling Juve apart, with some players able to press while others only had the legs to retreat deep. This created large central spaces for Bayern to operate within, eventually finding joy in zone 14 for Thiago's goal. An exhausted Juve were forced to chase the game late on, which led to Coman's goal on the counter, again in zone 14 which had largely been abandoned due to a loss of shape via desperation and tiredness.

Pep deserves a lot more credit than he's receiving for turning the game around (although he should with his wealth of options), while the criticism of Allegri for "blowing the lead" is over the top. Bayern and Pep simply found a way to take the game by the scruff of the neck on two occasions, where their superior class showed against a lesser team who ended up becoming knackered from spending most of the game chasing after the ball in an aggressive manner.

This is also ignoring the factors of Juve missing great chances to wrap the game up in the original 90, plus having other outstanding chances in extra time. But I don't know if that's even allowed to be up for discussion when simplicities such as "Mandzukic for Morata changed the game" are actually written with straight faces, while so many other nuances are ignored. Maybe there is an argument for subbing off someone else for Mandzukic, but surely that would mean conceding even more central midfield territory, which was already a huge problem for Juve at that point. Regardless, I think it's a shame that people will nitpick decisions that were largely irrelevant (positively and negatively) to the flow of the game.

TL;DR: Some people needed to play closer attention to the game.
 
#906 · (Edited)
Agreed, everywhere the analyst just look at the results, but the reality is that this was god damn well played game, one of the highest quality that it wouldnt be weird if it was a UCL Final, both coaches, read the flow of the game brilliantly, at the end you could say that until regular time both strategies were working with Juve almost winning the match but Costa is amazing, sometimes tactics can be done perfectly but world class players like Costa can find the smallest opportunity and somehow make it work, extra time was another story, Pep brought Thiago and it was all over for Juve.

At the end everyone understimated both Juve before the match and Bayern while they were losing. Kudos to both Pep and Allegri, both were amazing but at the end, only 1 can pass to the next round
 
#1,024 · (Edited)
I'm a little bit calmer now. But damn how awesome was that? This is the kind of thing that makes me love football, it was insaneeeee. I rooted for Liverpool like it was my club since I was a kid.


:klopp2:klopp2:klopp2:klopp2:klopp2:klopp2:klopp2:klopp2:klopp2:klopp2:klopp2

PS: Payback came to Dortmund for eliminating FC Porto.
 
#1,127 ·
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Eat shit Bayern you bottling cunts. Enjoy your treble of being eliminated by 3 Spanish teams in 3 years.

I've never seen a 'top team' perform so shit away from home in Europe. Too bad Bayern couldn't draw Porto at every stage of their CL campaign, because then they would actually have a chance of winning it.

Bunch of miserable bottling fucks.

PS. Hopefully Rummenigge gets hit by a bus.

PSS.



Enjoy your retirement you old, miserable, bottling Madrid fuck. lol
 
#396 ·
I think it's quite clear we are on par with Barcelona in terms of attacking talent.

De Gea 2/10. Should have passed to Rooney more. I expected at least one save made by catching it in his teeth.

Darmian 8/10. Really appreciate his ability to remain in his own half. About as risky as going outside without a jacket when it's cloudy.

Smalling 10/10. Mike.

Blind 5/10. Not as attractive with shorter hair. Left footed which makes it hard for me to bond with him as I'm right footed.

Rojo 9/10. Such a generous guy, no matter who the first man was when he crossed it in, 90% of the time he made sure they got the ball as a nice confidence booster. So laid back too, didn't let things like tactics or a formation define him or his positional play - meant to be a left back but was often in the centre of the pitch, makes Maldini look like Mouldini.

Schneiderlin 7.5/10. Safety first with Morgan as he refused to tackle the PSV players, instead choosing to let them glide past him whilst he took mental notes on what Propper's back looked like. Could do with a team bonding session though as based on his passing he was unsure who his teammates were.

Schweinsteiger 8/10. In an era where counter attacking appears to be prevalent again, he's really being a figurehead in that succeeding as his pace allows many a player to pass by him. I have it on esteemed information that he was once out run by Hawking, without his wheelchair, and a dog without limbs.

Lingard 1/10. Attacked far too much.

Rooney 11/10. Inspirational. Marvellous. Iconic. Captain marvel does it again as he puts in a scintillating performance that had the crowd on their feet. Played in every position just so he could touch the ball, heard him ask De Gea for a go in goals but that ignorant Spaniard told him to fuck off. Undervalued. Underpaid. I'll cry when he leaves.

Depay 3/10. Abysmal. Needs to return to Memphis. The King is dead but I'd rather have Elvis on the wing than this shower of shit.

Martial 8/10. Excellent audition for Bambi on Ice. Enjoyed his new technique of stepping on the ball instead of kicking it, not sure it'll catch on.

Substitutes 2/10. Young gets a 6 for 2 good crosses, Mata gets 6 for the amount of minutes he was expected to perform in but unfortunately Fellaini gets -10 for being fucking crap and having the first touch equivalent of throwing a bouncy ball at a wall.

United fans 10/10. You have all passed the test. You are now allowed to leave the library.
 
#574 · (Edited)
Sorry if i was not as explicit, but i mean the premiere league title, its not like United are going to play UCL next year.

Unless his knee gives too much trouble, i can see him easily playing at a decent level even with 37 years. Besides who say Ibra is going to be the only striker United can buy? wasnt United going to be the richiest club in the wolrd?. Ibra is a nice short term solution.
 
#677 ·
I accept this, but I also think some of this does still ultimately fall at LVG's feet.

I forget the exact match, but earlier this season Fellaini was stood 5 yards from goal, one v one with the keeper, nobody in a better position. He stopped, dead in tracks, to look around for someone to pass to. He got scuppered and the ball taken from him, because he didn't want to shoot/score from a position that LVG didn't authorise.

It is this type of "philosophy" which has hindered many players performances this season, and last. Granted, Fellaini will never be a world beater, but you get my point. Our squad is currently confused as to whether to play football, or play LVG's game of possession. This has resulted in disjointed performances and players not on the same wavelength.
 
#830 ·
Deserved result for Liverpool, we were really poor and Mignolet wasn't tested at all. Carrick is as much use as using a spoon as a murder weapon. Something which I considered attempting during that. I'm rarely interested in praising Liverpool players but I think Lallana is phenomenal at times and is vastly underrated. With the constant diving and card waving from Liverpool and the countless petty fouls from Fellaini and other United players it wasn't a great watch at all. De Gea the only United player who was above average. Our left hand side was abysmal, Rojo was horrendous and is genuinely one of the worst passers of a ball I've witnessed in my entire life. You could blindfold a spastic and they'd succeed more than that lesbian drug smuggler.
 
#1,034 ·
Feels good mane

Delighted that this group of players finally have their own crazy European night at Anfield. Skrtel and Lucas are the only ones who would have experienced the Rafa CL days, although Kolo was there that night for the 4-2 vs Arsenal :lelbron3

Even at 2-0 down, the tie didn't feel out of reach because we seemed to be carving out chances in the 15mins before halftime, just couldn't take them

I was in :cry mode at 3-1 though

Wouldn't mind going into next season with the Sakho/Lovren partnership still in tact. I think they're great together. Our defending at fullback though is poo

Special shout-out to the homie, Rush (RIP). He always believed in Lovren and never gave up on the guy. This night is for you, brother :mj2
 
#1,155 ·
I cannot believe FUCKING City were in this CL semi-final while the likes of Juve and Barca were out.

That was one of the worst semi-final performances I have ever seen.

Real Madrid are in the FUCKING CL Final and they went through a easier path than Liverpool have had in the FUCKING Europa League.

Eat shit you worthless fucks.
 
#1,310 · (Edited)
Crap final, Oblak looked just as bad as he did in the shoot-out against PSV.

Jammy as fuck run from Madrid avoiding basically every top team on their way to the final and then winning in a shoot-out after drawing thanks to an offside goal and an off-target Griezmann penalty. One of the softest CL winning campaigns I can remember.

Huge props to Zidane though. He's really turned this Madrid team around, they were shocking in their first couple of months under him, and you can't argue with a CL win.
 
#1,317 ·
While i agree that Madrid road was shady and easy as fuck, the match was great and Real had a lot of chances to win the match, good chances inside Oblak area.

Those PK, Oblak tried to guess the side the ball was going, but it looked awful, 3-4 almost identical PK for madrid
 
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