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NFL: Divisonal: GB/ARI, SEA/CAR, KC/NE, PIT/DEN

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Remember that time Pete Carroll threw the ball on the 1 yard line in that one Super Bowl and somehow the Patriots were seen as this amazing team even though they 99.99% should've lost that game?


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New thread because it's DRAFT TIME:mark:
 
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@Mercy @Pratchett

Both of you were right. It has happened :marvin

Bengals sign Marvin Lewis to 1-year contract extension.

Marvin Lewis is getting the Tom Coughlin treatment in Cincinnati and won't enter this season as a lame duck. The Bengals head coach, whose contract was set to expire at the end of the season, now has a deal guaranteed through 2016, the team announced Wednesday. What initially looked like a make-or-break year for Lewis and his 12-season tenure now feels like an advanced warning that his 0-6 playoff record needs to change, but that he'll have some time to change it. This might also be an advanced warning for Andy Dalton, too. There's no doubt that Lewis was a breath of fresh air for the Bengals' franchise upon his hiring in 2003. He broke a string of six consecutive losing seasons and, in his third year, made the playoffs and lost in the opening round. Sadly, that has been the continuing theme for Lewis throughout his tenure with the Bengals. The incremental progress has led to greater expectations. If the coach and quarterback are truly tied at the hip then both Dalton -- whose dead money against the cap reduces significantly after the 2016 season -- and Lewis will need to make a significant leap in 2015. Surprisingly, that did not translate to an overly-aggressive free agency campaign, though Lewis has always been more willing to build through the draft. Starting in a week, he'll need some immediate-impact players if he wants to avoid another lame-duck season.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000487401/article/bengals-sign-marvin-lewis-to-1year-contract-extension



:heston :eek:uttahere
 
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#21 ·
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remember when dez caught the go ahead score and dallas was set to go to the nfc title game for the first time since 1995?


me either :duck
 
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NE needs to go DT/CB

Marcus Peters, Jalen Collins or Eddie Goldman I'm hoping for

Had Revis stayed I'd consider taking Dorial Green Beckham but too may holes on defense need to be filled. O-line could use some help too.
 
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Yeah Stephen Jones is the light at the end of the tunnel. It could be an illusion though.

I don't know what's going to happen when Romo retires. He's kept this team above water for years now. Without Romo, this team is the Oakland Raiders. Serious.
 
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Is Jameis Winston that good to go #1 ?

Right now seems to be the perfect time to ask that question if you're a Bucs fan. Now, I am no Bucs fan, but I certainly think they are taking Winston with their #1 pick and I realize I am in a majority. However, I don't think they really should be taking this pick. I am in the minority when I say that Winston isn't good enough to take the Bucs to the playoffs. I don't care if it's the same state he played his Collegiate career in. I don't care how many games he has won either. I also feel that Glennon has plenty of potential, but that is hardly a debate now.

An Andrew Luck, or Russel Wilson don't come around very often. Winston is not on the same level of either. Winston may have the ability to throw 250 plus touchdowns in his career, but I don't know that this is a given. It's no easy feat, but I think it's a feat that tells us what type of talent they may end up drafting. I don't find Winston as a "smart" decision maker. College football is not the NFL. He will have to be able to read complex defenses and make adjustments. Luckily for him The Bucs have some offensive talent for him, including last year's first round pick.

Cleveland, make it, or break it draft?

They have two draft picks this year and I feel like this is it for the organization. Why this year? They have a new set of faces in their personnel again. New GM and everything has led to all of this. You don't often find yourself in a position to have two first round picks very often. Colts taking Trent off their hands was a genius move on Cleveland's part. Honestly, I think Cleveland taking two first round picks and dedicating them to offense is the most obvious move here.

Todd Gurley and Dorial Green-Beckham seem like the best fits for Cleveland. Randy Moss had a ton of issues coming out of College and that did nothing to his career. I am not saying he Dorial is the next Randy Moss, but don't allow off the field issues dictate your picks. Josh Gordon was mistake, but don't hold it against your organization. Todd Gurley was a man amongst boys in the SEC and that says a whole lot. You cant' get talent like Todd Gurley and he will solidify their run game unlike Richardson.

Which Sophomore QB gets their rookie weapon?

With all the buzz about the receiver position again this year I wonder if Teddy Bridgewater and Derek Carr. Both looked strong last year. I think it's more important for The Raiders to grab someone with their 4th pick in the NFL Draft. With Kevin White and Amari Cooper as your options it shouldn't be that hard to make a decision. Amari Cooper in my opinion will be the better receiver right away for the Raiders. White is talented, but I don't think he will fit with Oakland.

Teddy may want a reunion with his old teammate, but do you pass up Kevin White? Hell no. Some say White may not be around by the time the Vikings pick and that could be true. In that case I can very easily see Bridgewater reuniting with his former College WR Devante Parker. Parker is no sleeper either. He is a top 25 player by all means, but you don't pass up Kevin White. He is a freak of nature and could certainly help Teddy in the long run.

Who is the best pass rusher of the draft?

It's an obvious question, but I don't think many people know who big of a deal this is. It's roughly 20 players a year get more than 10 plus sacks a year in the NFL. Occasionally it's 25, or more, but very rarely. There are 32 teams, and that means at least a dozen teams need a pass rusher to change the face of their defense. I don't know who the best, pure, pass rusher is, but I have hunch.

Leonard Williams will play anywhere on the defensive line once he is drafted to the NFL and will be a 100 sack artists when it is all said and done. I don't think he is a bust type player. In fact I think is one of those one in every decade type players. He is relentless and I don't care where he goes because he will be a future hall of fame talent when his career is over. Williams better go top 5 and if he doesn't shame on Tampa, Tennessee, Jacksonville, Oakland, and Washington. Williams will likely land in Jacksonville if Tennessee is stupid enough to pass him. Jaguars defense will have that player to get to Andrew Luck.

What will your team do in the first round?

Ideal 3-4 Nose Tackle

I think the Steelers will actually be in a solid position to find the Nose Tackle they have needed since Casey Hampton left for retirement. I think Eddie Goldman, NT, out of Florida State would be the best pick for the Steelers. First, they love drafting out of Florida State. Every 3-4 defense needs a Nose Tackle who can draw two linemen because it frees up space for the linebackers. Goldman is the type of talent that could easily change the course of this younger defensive group at linebacker, Shazier, Jones, Williams, Spence, and led by veteran Timmons(9) season w/team.

Pass rushing, 3-4, linebacker

This is no doubt a necessary move in the first round if they can find the player they want. Apparently the draft stock of both Shane Ray and Randy Gregory are dropping. If that is the case I would go with either player. Jarvis Jones hasn't looked special at all, but I am willing to give him one fresh year under a new defensive coordinator and one more year with Joey Porter making the switch to linebacker coach. That still doesn't mean they don't need another pass rusher. Harrison with Moats will be on the other side and I don't think either is the long term solution. If I had to pick one over the other I would go with Gregory. His potential is sky high.
 
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Alright I've changed my mind on who I want. I actually kinda hope we trade down for like a 2nd and 3rd.

If NE stays I would like Kevin Johnson, Marcus Peters. Wouldn't be against Goldman or Brown at DT, just not crazy about them
 
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Rivers to Titans makes sense?

It certainly does. I think it makes sense because Whisenhunt and Rivers had a strong chemistry in San Diego prior to the split. Ken has wanted Rivers since the 2004 NFL Draft, but instead the Steelers went with the better QB, Ben Roethlisberger. Under Whisenhunt The Chargers offense was on fire. Let San Diego take Marcus Mariota. Rivers is closer to home while playing in Tennessee and Mariota was a star in California and so that could mean something. Rivers doesn't want to be in San Diego and I think this is a win, win situation for both teams. Hell, a better situation for The Chargers because Mariota is young with tremendous upside.

Should Saints offer for Adrian Peterson?

I am serious. They have two first round picks and a young quality RB in Mark Ingram, whom they could easily package in a deal for Peterson. This gives Minnesota plenty of picks and an insurance policy for Ingram. Remember, Brees and the passing game will always be there. Just add Peterson in the mix and you have an unstoppable, clocking killing, juggernaut of an offense in New Orleans. Peterson could easily match the amount of touchdowns Graham would have.
 
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