Originally Posted by united_07
The Times are saying Southampton have rejected the bid for shaw, and an agreement is further away than thought. Apparently Southampton are holding out for £30m.
Didn't think what times have said was news the 27m bid was rejected ages ago think even on day bid was placed Jim white on SSN was saying saints will reject it then 2 weeks later Jamie Jackson guardian said 27m was rejected then 30m bid being prepared not sure how you prepare a 30m bid or what even happened to that new 30m bid but whatever.
27m to 30m is 3M I'm kinda struggling see why deal is further away then suggested by all accounts hold up has been due to saints wanting sort out managers situation first then look at out going players after World Cup is over for England.
But article mentions one line that says Woodward is confident of pulling off several majors deals. Says were Keen to sign Schweinsteiger and Hummels but it will be hard to get them over the line. LvG raised questions about our transfer activity & strategy about getting signings before he joined during contract talks then said article mentions failed deals at cesc, bale, ronny & joint bid for baines & Felliani all last summer & then has whole paragraph to us falling offload likes of ando & chicha & other deadwood so far while other clubs wrapping up deals already.
Piece written by Jonathan Northcroft who best buds with Moyes btw so I'm sure doesn't bother him bringing fear mongering into our summer now Moyes is gone but yet fails mention Moyes passing up signings of thiago strootman & Garay last summer all which set up for him by SAF. Regardless of what people think of Woodward he didn't go for said as Moyes didnt want them so just following orders even though most work done for him on all 3 players. Article also doesn't mention that shaw wants join us but that's been reported by several places & fact parents want him move to us & already house hunting in Manchester (andy mitten info) again classic fear mongering. Mentions one line about Woodward in positive note but doesn't go into any detail about players actually "meant" be close getting then rest of the article makes him look like a clown cos hasn't signed anyone before the start of World Cup. Yes changing our targets & manger late on must had nothing to do with that & shaw hold up must be at our end I didn't notice saints new manager & fact they had sold likes of shaw, Chambers, Lovren & lallana yet. Can't be due to this World Cup thing going on.
I've Said it before say it again how does it benefit us by dragging shaw deal out? Honestly it doesn't, if given chance we had signed Shaw ages ago before World Cup actually. Talks prob continue over World Cup & after it & truthful if adding 3m on deal is hold up frankly that's nothing in today's market & imagine offer 30m once England go out. No one knows if have even offered 30m already really. Takes several sides & people to conclude a deal & saints actually have other important things on mind like getting new manager in first & foremost.
Its middle of June & press haven't got a clue about who were signings almost all them made look like idiots for putting out pieces about players gonna sign but then find out not after those targets so imagine there not impressed about being made look like total idiots. A World Cup holds up several deals for everyone but wouldn't know that as it apparently only holds up us & Woodward, sigh. I thought last year Woodward & Moyes were shambles in market which left everybody unimpressed but I said last year that Ed will continue in his role till least 2014 summer & need step up as can't afford another bad summer so I'm going do smart thing wait till window actually over before making judgment on Woodward position.
But I can't believe Woodward be some dumb fudge up this summer after last years mess of a summer? People need be patient isn't going be lot deals done by anyone while group stages of World Cup is ongoing wait till teams start going out then see activity picking up not just with us but with most teams. No one knows what going on behind the scenes at club or deals could be working on just have be patient & what to see what deals have been done once the window is closed.