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Old 05-12-2014, 07:13 AM   #51 (permalink)
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Can someone please explain to me how £27m for Luke Shaw is a bad deal. He's not some one season wonder and he's not some foreign hack who looked good in a shoddy league like France or Italy that can't cope with proper competition. There's an extremely high chance we'll have one of the LBs in the world for the next decade. Look at as £3m a season and it's a great deal. You're looking at as well he'll flop and it'll be a waste of money but honestly how high is that risk? I'd be comfortable staking my (super valued) fitba thread reputation on him not being a flop. Plus I'd much rather we spend the money and get someone who will be one of the best LBs in the world for the next decade then end up with someone high risk signing that constantly leaves a big weakness in our defence.
You're looking at more than 3 mil a season when you factor in his wages. Say bare minimum is the 75k a week that was mentioned in that article and forget all the various bonuses and clauses that come with a contract. Thats nearly 4 mil a season in wages which will increase a few times throughout that 10-15 year period you guys are talking about. I don't think its a bad deal, but much like i feel with us and Lallana its a bit more expensive than i'd like.

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He's not just potential though. He was the best LB in the league this season.
One of the best, Azpi had a great season, Baines is always solid etc etc.
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Old 05-12-2014, 07:19 AM   #52 (permalink)
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it's ok Seabs, people are just jelly we're getting him and they're not. Mainly Pool fans who are stuck with Enrique and Flanagan for next season so far
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I'm a bit surprised that United are seemingly going to get Shaw without having to fight off some competition. I guess they moved first and no one else is going to offer more than that but I thought Chelsea and City would be sniffing around. Hell, if I was Chelsea or City I'd probably put in 30m bid anyway. Make United have to pay more or steal Shaw from them. Both of these teams could use a left back.

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Southampton should just let Lallana leave and not Shaw in that case.
Lallana's not gonna get them 27m though.
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No matter which way you look at it, nearly £30m for a full back is a lot of money. You expect to pay that sort of money for players who can win you games, not a full back.

I don't think it's a bad deal. Just highly overpriced. And I even questioned the money being talked about when it seemed like he may go to Chelsea earlier in the season.
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Shaw for 27m looks like the bargain of the century compared to Fellaini for 28.
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You're looking at more than 3 mil a season when you factor in his wages. Say bare minimum is the 75k a week that was mentioned in that article and forget all the various bonuses and clauses that come with a contract. Thats nearly 4 mil a season in wages which will increase a few times throughout that 10-15 year period you guys are talking about. I don't think its a bad deal, but much like i feel with us and Lallana its a bit more expensive than i'd like.



One of the best, Azpi had a great season, Baines is always solid etc etc.
Well yeah but you have to factor wages, etc into every transfer fee. The point is this isn't some 29 year old we're signing for a quick 2-3 season fix. It's a lot of money but that's the type of money you have to spend to get a player like him. 18, Southampton don't need to sell and already proven quality in this league. Those sort of players will never come cheap and I'd much rather have the quality for an extra £5-10m.

Azpi was up there but will he be a permanent LB? He's better than Baines because he can actually defend.

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No matter which way you look at it, nearly £30m for a full back is a lot of money. You expect to pay that sort of money for players who can win you games, not a full back.

I don't think it's a bad deal. Just highly overpriced. And I even questioned the money being talked about when it seemed like he may go to Chelsea earlier in the season.
Any player on the pitch can win or lose a game.
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Any player on the pitch can win or lose a game.
C'mon. A full back isn't going to be considered a game winner. You're not going to be looking at Shaw when you draw a game and thinking, if only he did something special at a particular moment, we may have won the game. That's what you're going to expect from the guys on the pitch who are there to win you games and the reason why you spend £30m and £40m for.

Shaw is a very good player already and probably will be a great player in a couple of years and a world class player in 5 years or so. And I'm not saying United fans should be upset about the deal. You all need a left back and having good English players help. All I'm saying is nearly £30m for a full back is overpriced. I said it when Madrid bought Coentrao for around that sum. I'm saying the same now.
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Full Backs/Defenders can win you games too, it's not all about attacking. Just look at the amount of goals we conceded (or nearly conceded) because of BIG PATRICE this season.

I know it's different but look at Ferdinand, he cost us 30mil, was young and had a lot of potential. Turned out pretty great.
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it's ok Seabs, people are just jelly we're getting him and they're not. Mainly Pool fans who are stuck with Enrique and Flanagan for next season so far
No one is saying Shaw's a bad player, just expensive. I'd rather keep Flanno than pay 27 mil for Shaw though.

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Well yeah but you have to factor wages, etc into every transfer fee. The point is this isn't some 29 year old we're signing for a quick 2-3 season fix. It's a lot of money but that's the type of money you have to spend to get a player like him. 18, Southampton don't need to sell and already proven quality in this league. Those sort of players will never come cheap and I'd much rather have the quality for an extra £5-10m.

Azpi was up there but will he be a permanent LB? He's better than Baines because he can actually defend.



Any player on the pitch can win or lose a game.
point was just 75k a week for a player so young is a fair amount which is only going to increase. Likewise with what Joel is saying, 27 mil is a lot to spend on a fullback. Its no coincidence why the top 10 most expensive transfers are all forwards, mids and wingers. Shaw is a good player, its just an expensive transfer.
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