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Old 09-24-2012, 06:22 AM   #171 (permalink)
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I couldn't give a fuck about when the games are scheduled, of course in a tourny hosted by India/Sri Lanka means that a quarter final featuring both teams will be played in their home country. The teams involved are meant to be based on their performance in the tournament. Thats what it is about. You finish first, then you clearly deserve a team that hasn't performed as well to play. That is the basis any seeding process in the world. In this T20 tournament, the next round isn't based on performance during this tournament which is a farce.

Group 1 features every side that topped their group, that is a completely ridiculous way of determining a super 8 group.
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Old 09-24-2012, 06:44 AM   #172 (permalink)
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Group 1 features every side that topped their group, that is a completely ridiculous way of determining a super 8 group.
The groupings in Super 8 is because of their performance in 2011 T20 World Cup

Australia - Rank 2, Pakistan - Rank 4, South Africa - Rank 6 and India - Rank 8

The reason for group stage is not to evaluate performance but just to decide who is qualifying to Super 8.
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Old 09-24-2012, 06:53 AM   #173 (permalink)
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This is exactly my point you blithering idiot. The whole point of the group stage is to decide who is qualifying for the super 8's. Thus if you qualify first in one group, then you should be facing 2 of the teams that finished 2nd in 2 of the other groups. What you have done previously is irrelevent to this tournament. You have your seedings from pior to the tournament that decide groups and thats it. Thats as far as prior performance goes. This tourney saw the (likely) top 2 teams from each group as

group a

India
England

group b

Australia
West Indies

group c

South Africa
Sri Lanka

group d

Pakistan
New Zealand

which for this tournament for an utterly dumb reason makes the groupings for the next stage be Pak, Ind, Aus, SA in one group. That is stupid.

A simple format based on performance in this tournament (which is the whole point of the tournament) should have the groups as something like

Ind, WI, SA, NZ and;
Eng, Aus, SL, Pak

2 1st places, 2 2nd places in each group. Its not a hard concept, makes far more sense and is what is normally the way it goes in a proper tournament.
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Old 09-24-2012, 07:44 AM   #174 (permalink)
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This is exactly my point you blithering idiot. The whole point of the group stage is to decide who is qualifying for the super 8's. Thus if you qualify first in one group, then you should be facing 2 of the teams that finished 2nd in 2 of the other groups.


How can one not understand a simple statement? Amazing.

Group stages are only for QUALIFYING. Not qualifying first or second. Just qualifying. To see who goes to Super 8.

Which group they go depends on the PERFORMANCE in the previous T20 world cup - which is how the groupings were made even for the ODI World Cups. All that the group stage does is to give minnows a chance to qualify instead of the higher seeded team.


The reason for that, just like the reason for scheduling quarter final matches in ODI world cup, is for the fans to plan their trip and not end up where they don't want to be.
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Old 09-24-2012, 07:51 AM   #175 (permalink)
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OBVIOUSLY. i'm saying that its a stupid way of doing it. How can you not grasp that? Jesus fucking christ, you're a fucking joke lad. The previous t20 cup should have no bearing on the super 8's of this tournament. Nice to see you've backed down from your asinine statement that the ODI world cup is done the same way when it clearly isn't.
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Old 09-24-2012, 07:56 AM   #176 (permalink)
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wow @ this

it's a horrific way of working out the groups. why does an event that has NOTHING to do with this year's world cup give weighting to groups? horrible. whole event reeks of stupid.
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The reason for that, just like the reason for scheduling quarter final matches in ODI world cup, is for the fans to plan their trip and not end up where they don't want to be.
the quarter final matches in the ODI world cup are based on your placement in the group. Scheduling is a different issue entirely.
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the quarter final matches in the ODI world cup are based on your placement in the group. Scheduling is a different issue entirely.
Again, showing your ineptitude in understanding a simple logic. Horrible

This is similar to the ODI World Cup where the groups are made based on the seedings from the previous tournament. Except that there was an additional stage to help the minnows to qualify. The group stage has nothing to do with the positioning.

Just like the groups in ODI Cup was based on seedings, so is the groups for the Super 8. Just like the quarterfinals to that were based on performance, the semi finals here will be based on performance.

The reason for that is for scheduling and helping the viewers plan their trips. And, not leave everything to gamble and make it that much difficult for the spectators. Quite logical.
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Old 09-24-2012, 09:49 AM   #179 (permalink)
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You are so lacking in intelligence that i feel bad for whoever dropped you on your head as a child.
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Old 09-24-2012, 10:28 AM   #180 (permalink)
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Results from a previous tournament should have no bearing on any future tournaments. The whole fabric of that notion is asinine. Doesn't surprise me though, given it is T20 and it is Sri Lanka organising it. The depths of DarthSimian's unintelligence just staggers the mind at times.

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