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2014 FIFA World Cup Brazil

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#1 · (Edited)
Time for its own thread.

C'MON ENGLAND! WE GOT THIS!

:whiteknight :woy :stevie :rooney :cashley


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We do not got this :terry1
 
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#523 · (Edited)
Ashley Cole is facing the end of his England career after being told he will not be considered for the World Cup squad.

Telegraph Sport understands Cole has spoken to Roy Hodgson, the England manager, on Sunday evening and was informed he would not be in contention for the 23-man squad that flies to Brazil.

Cole, 33, is believed to have been asked if he would consider being named on the standby list but declined the offer and is now likely to retire from international football.

The Chelsea defender's exclusion from Hodgson's squad is the latest blow in a difficult season in which he has been marginalised by Jose Mourinho.

It now seems certain that in Cole's absence Southampton's Luke Shaw will be on the plane.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/england/article10823769.ece?token=2077768994
 
#526 ·
Ashley Cole ‏@TheRealAC3 5m
I got the call from Roy and agree England team should be about the young players. I think it best I retire from England team now. ����

Ashley Cole ‏@TheRealAC3 5m
We have a great manager and team and I wish them only success. I will be supporting them like a true fan. Thanks to everyone for everything
 
#531 ·
Ashley Cole ‏@TheRealAC3 5m
I got the call from Roy and agree England team should be about the young players. I think it best I retire from England team now. ����

Ashley Cole ‏@TheRealAC3 5m
We have a great manager and team and I wish them only success. I will be supporting them like a true fan. Thanks to everyone for everything
Extremely classy.
 
#534 ·
I'm sure someone might start to agree with you if you post that again...

Cole's handled himself well in this tough season. Shaw over him is the right decision.

Dunno how Lampard is going though. Guy's be atrocious for months. Yeah, he has experience, but what good is that if he's past it at that level?
 
#533 ·
Guess it's Baines as 1st choice with Shaw as backup then.

Shame, Baines should have been 1st choice regardless of the others but would have preferred Cole over Shaw to be honest. He's still more than capable of doing a job and would have provided some much needed experience, of the others that look like going only Gerrard and Lampard can come close to him in that respect. Going to be quite a young and inexperienced squad by the looks of it, not necessarily a bad thing though.

Really glad Barkley is going. Superb talent.
 
#536 ·
Cole is still England's best defensive full back and IMO not only should be going but starting. What's the purpose of Shaw there besides the fact that he's a promising talent? What he adds to this England team? You already have Baines who is very good going forward. If it's about Cole's playing time then he proved that it didn't affect him in top CL and PL matches since he came back. Hodgson is going to send Baines and Shaw to support the attack against Italy and Uruguay? Two big games that his team are probably going to defend a result with a defensive unit that mostly lack quality and experience at a top level. Ridiculous decision.

A World Cup is not the place to let your players gain experience, you have 4 years for that. It's a 3/4/5/6 match tournament where you use the variety of qualities you can get at the moment as effective as possible in a specific game. This looks to me more like a media decision than anything else.
 
#537 ·
I don't see the big drama. If Baines is first choice and Cole isn't going to play, then of course it will benefit Shaw by being there in that environment. It's not as if he's a poor alternative. He's already a very good full back, and it's not as if he & Baines can't defend either. Is Cole a better option? Maybe. He's more experienced and has played well in big games but I don't see the big issue. It's not like 2006 when Walcott essentially got a free holiday.

If Baines did get injured, would Cole be better suited to replacing him? Probably yeah. Will that situation arise? Possibly. Has Shaw shown composure and performed well in big games for Southampton this season against good teams? Most definitely.

I honestly wouldn't be worried if he played, much like it wouldn't bother me if Cole had been picked instead. I'd rather have the option of which good left back we left out than which two average right backs do we take.
 
#541 ·
or as long as woy is coach

or as long as they keep trying to play gerrard and lamp

or as long as they keep developing players the wrong way

or as long as they keep trying four four fucking two

or as long as they dont emphasise a balanced midfield with good ballwinners and ball retention

or as long as they cant develop genuinely creative midfielders

honestly, i say just fuck it and go all HAM. but even then, i can barely pick a starting XI that wont make me wanna throw up

they'll limp out of the group stages, grind out a few draws and wins with one embarrassing loss, then crash out of the last 16 to a vastly superior side in penalties

as always
 
#542 ·
Suarez and Cavani are both flat track bullies so one or both will go nuts against Costa Rica but will prob struggle against Italy. However if England are deciding to focus on a youth movement then the aforementioned pair could also dominate that sort of defence. Cole and Terry are brilliant system defenders, absolutely ideal for soaking in offensive pressure when they have the backing of the team. If England go in with Euro 12 tactics I think they could escape the group with 5 points but those two are vital for the success of that approach.
 
#543 ·
We players like Sterling, Lallana and Barkley in the squad, I think England may be fun to watch. But then again, WOY will most likely tactically bore the other team with his negative style of play. I can understand that tactic if you haven't got the squad to play attacking football but England have that and should be balanced enough to play like that during the World Cup.

In saying that, I'll be supporting the Aussies and Greeks.

8*D
 
#548 ·
We'll probably get walloped this time around, but we'll be better for the experience. Ange will set out to play decent fitba, and that we have young players going to places like Germany and developing can only be good for us.



Barry should be ahead of both of them.
 
#549 ·
According to Sky Sports News, the three English GK's are: Hart (no brainer in all honesty), Ben Foster & Fraser Forster.

Ruddy misses out.
 
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