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post #21 of 247 (permalink) Old 02-14-2017, 08:30 PM
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Re: Why the weird backlash over Naomi's title win?

I don't think it's racism. At least, I don't think that's the main reason for most people.

The hate is OTT though. Her flaws are incredibly overblown.

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I don't think it's racism. At least, I don't think that's the main reason for most people.

The hate is OTT though. Her flaws are incredibly overblown.
Rewatch the match Sunday... no seriously. Do it. Watch closely. I thought she only botched 4 or 5 moves. But she was missing nearly every third move she was attempting. She missed the flipping lariat, a spinning back elbow, several kicks, her finisher twice... and this is not an isolated incident. There are multiple matches where her botching is on full display. She is the female version of Sin Cara.

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Re: Why the weird backlash over Naomi's title win?

yes ita always the race card not her lack of any semblance of progression in the ring or on the mic Bliss may be green but shes leagues a head of botchomi
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Re: Why the weird backlash over Naomi's title win?

I mean, while I'm male and a confirmed Blissfit (I even kept tweeting it at her in the hopes she'd pick up on use of that pun and now she's using it) but all the female friends I have are also Bliss fans and genuinely weren't happy about Naomi winning because 'Alexa's amazing at what she does and it makes no sense for her to lose to Naomi, this is bullshit'.

My best friend and I only really bother with SD infrequently and when we do watch, it's because we only really like Alexa because the booking for others we like has been shit enough to make us not give a shit about them. I spoke to her yesterday and she wasn't happy at all with the EC results and I genuinely get the feeling we won't be watching this week (though we've not discussed watching SD tomorrow yet, we normally watch on Wednesdays on a streaming site because I have Sky Sports but she doesn't and we can only manage to get through the shows by watching together so we can mock the bullshit and discuss something else during a boring match/promo, which happens 85% of the time at the very least. Anyway, I wouldn't be surprised if we mutually agreed to skip this week's SD, purely based on Alexa losing the title to Naomi).

It feels like a few people here and a lot of people on Reddit have this weird fetish where because Alexa happens to be an attractive woman, they have to pretend she's not very good as a talker, actress or wrestler and then try to justify it with ridiculous reasoning while those same people pretend that Trish Stratus got over and is a HOFer due to talent rather than looks (she was basically dogshit in the ring but woe betide anyone who was actually watching while she was on the roster speaks the truth to these kids who only know of her thanks to the WWE propaganda machine, post-Trish retirement).

Then again, popular things tend to be hated by a minority of vocal neckbeards just to be contrary so Alexa Bliss seems to fit that to a tee, judging from some of the comments I've seen mostly on Reddit but also spilling over to this place too.


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Re: Why the weird backlash over Naomi's title win?

Not many wanted Bliss reign to end just yet that's why.

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Re: Why the weird backlash over Naomi's title win?

Why? Because there was no build. She came back after months off and 3 weeks later was given the title because WM is in her hometown.

There is also the fact that her two biggest matches in her career she's botched the finish.

WM30 was in the women's title match and the finish was supposed to be AJ grabbing her hand and make it look like Naomi was tapping out, instead Naomi tapped out all on her own.

Then biggest moment of her career and she botched her finisher because she rushed it and Alexa couldn't get into place in time. If Naomi landed 4 inches more to the left, probably would have broken some of Alexa's ribs.

She was also involved in that incident in '15 when she pinned Charlotte when that wasn't the finish.
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Re: Why the weird backlash over Naomi's title win?

It has nothing to do with racism, to even suggest that is ridiculous.
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Re: Why the weird backlash over Naomi's title win?

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I mean, while I'm male and a confirmed Blissfit (I even kept tweeting it at her in the hopes she'd pick up on use of that pun and now she's using it) but all the female friends I have are also Bliss fans and genuinely weren't happy about Naomi winning because 'Alexa's amazing at what she does and it makes no sense for her to lose to Naomi, this is bullshit'.

My best friend and I only really bother with SD infrequently and when we do watch, it's because we only really like Alexa because the booking for others we like has been shit enough to make us not give a shit about them. I spoke to her yesterday and she wasn't happy at all with the EC results and I genuinely get the feeling we won't be watching this week (though we've not discussed watching SD tomorrow yet, we normally watch on Wednesdays on a streaming site because I have Sky Sports but she doesn't and we can only manage to get through the shows by watching together so we can mock the bullshit and discuss something else during a boring match/promo, which happens 85% of the time at the very least. Anyway, I wouldn't be surprised if we mutually agreed to skip this week's SD, purely based on Alexa losing the title to Naomi).

It feels like a few people here and a lot of people on Reddit have this weird fetish where because Alexa happens to be an attractive woman, they have to pretend she's not very good as a talker, actress or wrestler and then try to justify it with ridiculous reasoning while those same people pretend that Trish Stratus got over and is a HOFer due to talent rather than looks (she was basically dogshit in the ring but woe betide anyone who was actually watching while she was on the roster speaks the truth to these kids who only know of her thanks to the WWE propaganda machine, post-Trish retirement).

Then again, popular things tend to be hated by a minority of vocal neckbeards just to be contrary so Alexa Bliss seems to fit that to a tee, judging from some of the comments I've seen mostly on Reddit but also spilling over to this place too.
I was with you and could understand where you were coming from until that dumb part at the end. A big part of Alexa's fanbase are the online neckbeards who like her because of her looks and are melting down at Naomi's win.

If you look at the actual crowds Bliss gets zero reaction despite being pushed very hard for quite a while now.
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Re: Why the weird backlash over Naomi's title win?

Why do people on here still say no one cares about women's wrestling? Acting like this is 2010 or something (at least 2010 WWE that is, there have always been fans of women's wrestling outside WWE.)

On topic though, imo Naomi's pretty boring, is pretty bad on the mic, and she botches on the regular. It feels like she won the title more so because she was there for a while and never had it instead of her actually deserving it. The rosters on both brands are really thin too so not a lot of people to consider putting it on either.


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Re: Why the weird backlash over Naomi's title win?

She's not someone who the fans took as ready to be champions. She's a good wrestler for sure. But look at Daniel Bryan's momentum when he won the title off Cena at SummerSlam that's what we want to see for first time champions. Not like with Roman Reigns or Naomi where they are just handed the title out of the blue. Doesn't mean they are bad wrestlers, we just want the guys who have organically been built up to that point to win it.

And don't try to bring race into it. Sasha Banks is black and most people here love her to pieces as well as Ember Moon on NXT

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