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Bray Wyatt needs to do more fucked up shit

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#1 ·
They need to make Wyatt do fucked up shit kinda like Undertaker in the Ministry of Darkness because right now hes a fat hillbilly jobber who attacks people for no real reason then loses, some ideas for Angles I had was him "Crucifying" Dean Ambrose with Barbed Wire and a Steel Cage or doing a ritual where he burns something like the t-shirt of someone he is feuding with in a pentagram, so nothing that breaks PG-13 but more edgy.
 
#2 · (Edited by Moderator)
Kinda agree. Wyatt needs to cross the line. He needs to become genuinely disturbing.

I remember Goldust back in his prime. He did stuff that was so wrong, and so awkward. I don't know if anyone could get away with that these days, but Bray needs to make himself somebody who is uncomfortable to watch. He needs to be the guy who says the things you shouldn't say, and makes you think things you shouldn't think.
 
#7 ·
I know its cool to Bash Wyatt haha. But I don't think he's done. He just beat New Day. The thing with WWE is, they have pushed a ton of great talent. Sandow, Ziggler, Barrett, Rusev, Wyatt e.t.c. But then JOhn Cena squashes momentum. No wonder the main event scene is Rollins, Reigns, Ambrose an no one. When all their top heels who should be at the top of the card, have been squashed. Both Rusev and Wyatt should be main eventers atm. The fact a talent like Wyatt is still Upper Card is incredible. It is just shit booking tbh. But yeah its PG, so I woulden't expect much.
 
#8 ·
In this day and age I would imagine wouldn't be okay with these ideas because of the "PG" atmosphere. I would suggest Bray Wyatt getting a gift. With all this talk about competition between shows I think it should start right away. Wyatt receives a gift and we later come to find that it's from Mick Foley. The gift is the mask of Mankind the night he was thrown off the HIAC by Taker in Pittsburgh, the same place the first Raw of this most recent draft. The history makes and Foley could explain that what he did was help unleash something that Shane and Bryan won't be able to control.

I would love to see Wyatt wear Mankind's old mask. It would bring a whole new mystique to his character. Once the mask is on he proves his pain tolerance and endurance. It's like the mask gives him supernatural powers. Mankind was notorious for taking enormous amounts of pain. Wyatt should most certainly take on the same ability. I also think he should have a vile of blood around his neck. This vile of blood should be that of a pentagram. Wyatt tells everyone it's the blood of the "Devil", or perhaps someone on the roster like "Roman Reigns". Bray Wyatt has the blood of Roman Reigns in a vile around his neck and reminds Reigns his power over him.

I wouldn't mind Bray Wyatt sort of seeing into the future. Predicting things too accurately could ruin the show, but I certainly think that Bray Wyatt should show signs of seeing into the future of WWE stars. This could build returns, attacks, feuds, that don't necessarily have anything to do with Bray Wyatt. Perhaps speaking in multiple, or made up tongues, adding to his eccentric persona. There has to be a darker side to him that doesn't cross the line of "PG". He probably wouldn't be okay with wearing contacts, but I would totally dig him changing his pupils with contacts that have designs on them.
 
#13 · (Edited)
Bray by far is the most complex character on the roster. As such, he's also the easiest to write for. There a million and one ways to go with him, which is why I'm totally baffled that they don't have a clue what to do with him. There have been so many god forsaken wasted opportunities.



He feuded with Roman leading up to his SvrS push last November. Now what if during that entire feud, Bray's entire purpose was to bring out "the monster" inside of Roman he knew was there, all in order to show that he & Reigns have a lot more in common than he and the fans think. He pokes the bear, begging and pleading during their matches for Roman to go berserk and destroy him with a chair/kendo stick, ect. Reigns refuses after months of psychological warfare and wins clean anyway.


Cue his TLC beat down on HHH that was barbaric.



Now imagine Bray the following week bringing it up, slyly recalling their feud months before and how he brought to the surface what Reigns attempted to repress. He eventually gives in to the monster Bray wanted so desperately to expose him as. Bray reminds the people that the devil takes many forms but seldom does he make his presence known immediately by attempting to force himself through the front door; he masks his true nature by knocking politely and attempts to convince you to invite him in. Roman wasn't who the people thought he was. It was a lie to make the audience think he was a great role model for the kids and a good, wholesome family man with a heart of gold. But it was a lie, and the only one who won't deceive the people is Bray. Cue his maniacal laugh and the uneasiness of whomever his opponent is.





Even when he loses, he can win. He has lingering effects on his opponents and that makes feuding with him dreadful for the baby face. Win or lose, it gives weight to his promos and instills doubt in his oppoents, making his influential cult leader persona larger than life. Fans become enamored and curious (his 'fireflies.') In the babyfaces mind, what if he's right? Should they join him and his family so that Wyatt can lead them to prosperity and open their eyes to the true nature of the world around them (including the true nature of themselves?) It makes Xaviers Woods recent "trance" more poignant and chilling. That's a heel/antihero with an original dynamic and I think Bray would easily be a top 3 - 5 guy if they actually got creative with him.
 
#17 ·
You could be the writer for Bray Wyatt's character. That's exactly how he should be presented as, where even in defeat, he still sort of wins in a sense.
 
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#16 ·
Bray Wyatt is an Attitude Era character in a PG world, so I don’t think he will ever reach the potential he could. With that being said, there is no reason that they don’t push the envelope with Bray and Bray to push the envelope vise versa, and being a PG show should actually work to WWE’s advantage. I don’t think WWE has an idea as to what Bray’s character is though, and that’s why he keeps failing.

WWE never explored why Bray was just as unworthy of the WHC in the eyes of the Authority like with Daniel Bryan and Roman Reigns. They don’t explain why he doesn’t abduct members of the roster to join the Wyatts more often. They don’t explain how Bray can harvest Undertaker’s powers when no one else ever has. If he could brainwash Undertaker, why didn’t they show that? They don’t explain why it doesn’t matter if Bray loses a feud or loses at WrestleMania. I always believe that Wyatt losing to Cena at WM30 should not have mattered and that Cena should have still become John Wyatt for a brief time, as Bray should be someone who comes at you in various ways to get you to join his cult, even when the cameras are off. It was only when they filmed the compound scene with New Day that we understood how big the cult is. In fact, with this development, there’s no reason for creative to not at the very least hint that these cult members do a lot of the “fucked up shit” off camera for Bray. It’s obvious that Bray is supposed to be a new kind of a monster heel, but they’ve never really executed as good as they could.
 
#18 ·
They need to make Wyatt do fucked up shit kinda like Undertaker in the Ministry of Darkness because right now hes a fat hillbilly jobber who attacks people for no real reason then loses, some ideas for Angles I had was him "Crucifying" Dean Ambrose with Barbed Wire and a Steel Cage or doing a ritual where he burns something like the t-shirt of someone he is feuding with in a pentagram, so nothing that breaks PG-13 but more edgy.
This right here is one of the reasons why Wyatt will never succeed in this incarnation. He´s not a new Undertaker, he simply doesn´t have that presence. The whole "new face of fear" was DOA, and a bad idea from the beginning.
If they want to do something along that line anyway, he should be more like Foley in his lunatic Mankind character. Wyatt could succeed in that role, but every time he´s compared to Undertaker, that comparison always fall in advantage of the Deadman.
 
#19 · (Edited)
I'd love him to do this sort of stuff to be honest, he'd look so natural doing it.

All they really need to focus on with Bray though is making him seem like he's actually making a difference. That's been the problem with Bray over the last couple of years, 2015 especially, his feuds and character largely follow the same path of preaching the same sort of message to everyone he goes against, but does he really ever change them? Not really. He needs to have influence otherwise his character is quite pointless.

Fair enough D-Bry had a lot to do with how good the feud was between the two of them, but part of the reason why Bray v Bryan made for great viewing was because Bray seemed like he had changed somebody, that really hasn't happened since. They were making progress with Xavier, but obviously that angle is impossible now.
 
#21 ·
I have high hopes for Wyatt on SD. He will be kinda similar to undertaker, the marquee wrestle that won't always be holding the title but anyways in important feud designed for him.
 
#23 ·
In the feud he had with Roman Reigns, they skirted around him kidnapping Roman's daughter, but that didn't really come to fruition after the tea party segment, unless I'm remembering wrong. The feud started to focus more on the "Anyone but you" aspects to it, but the beginning of that feud was great and should be the kind of guy Bray Wyatt is. By that, I don't necessarily mean kidnapping, but going to that extent for his mind games.

Under the PG umbrella, you can still have great stories, you can push some boundaries, but they don't even try out of fear of losing advertisers. Bray Wyatt is presented as something completely unique in today's WWE, but we all get a meat and potatoes version of what he could be. It's really disappointing.
 
#25 ·
In the feud he had with Roman Reigns, they skirted around him kidnapping Roman's daughter, but that didn't really come to fruition after the tea party segment, unless I'm remembering wrong. The feud started to focus more on the "Anyone but you" aspects to it, but the beginning of that feud was great and should be the kind of guy Bray Wyatt is. By that, I don't necessarily mean kidnapping, but going to that extent for his mind games.

Under the PG umbrella, you can still have great stories, you can push some boundaries, but they don't even try out of fear of losing advertisers. Bray Wyatt is presented as something completely unique in today's WWE, but we all get a meat and potatoes version of what he could be. It's really disappointing.
what I wanted to bring up in this thread, as well. Going after family members gets heat and is evil. I felt their program dragged on and lost the personal side of it early on, but they started in a good direction.

Attaching a strong, dominating face head on won't work for Bray because WWE will have him lose or physically beaten. Going after cherished objects/possessions/qualities of those wrestlers would work.
 
#26 · (Edited)
What I don't get is they let Enzo and Cass push the boundaries of PG and they have at times with others like Cena, HHH etc Why wouldn't you let the one guy who should be pushing those boundaries actually do it. It makes zero sense to me.

They have fucked up the Wyatt family booking pretty much every step of the way which is crazy when you think they are the easiest to book from the whole era let alone roster.


Ultimately because pg hampers his potential as an evil heel they should turn him tweener (not complete face) and bring back the down with the machine gimmick.
 
#28 ·
Bray Wyatt cant do any fucked up shit in the PG era. If this was in the attitude era OMG Bray would be very sick
 
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