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Old 03-15-2013, 02:41 AM   #31 (permalink)
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When did Del Rio say he supports illegals? Zeb just hates all immigrants. See his promo with Barret.
No, Zeb hates illegal immigrants only. Check out his twitter, he's always saying that he only have problems with illegals not legals, and all of his recent promos are about illegal immigrants.

Anyways, that's the whole point of this storyline. Zeb hates illegals while ADR is supporting them, saying stuff like "America is for everyone and these people come here for better jobs and life"
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Old 03-15-2013, 03:54 PM   #32 (permalink)
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No, Zeb hates illegal immigrants only. Check out his twitter, he's always saying that he only have problems with illegals not legals, and all of his recent promos are about illegal immigrants.

Anyways, that's the whole point of this storyline. Zeb hates illegals while ADR is supporting them, saying stuff like "America is for everyone and these people come here for better jobs and life"
Well, that's a bad way to try to gain heat when just about everybody agrees with you. I hate how Zeb went from hating everybody who isn't a white american, to being a rational person against the immigration laws.

Still, Del Rio never said he specifically supports illegal immigration. During that promo, Zeb was just being an asshole to Del Rio's "people"(Mexicans) by labeling them all as criminals. Seriously, not all Mexicans who come here are illegal and not all illegals are Mexican.

Eh, I don't what WWE's writers are thinking. So far they're not giving us a real reason to hate on Zeb. Like I said in another thread, they need to bring out some subtle racism from him and not just towards the Hispanics.
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Del Rio fucking sucks for a guy who's always in the wwe/world title picture. No curse here. He still hasn't been over his entire career. A rumble winner, 2 time wwe champion and world champion and he STILL gets absolute no reaction from the crowd. Even when he was heel he didnt get heat he just got no reaction because simply no one cares about him. The only time he gets reaction is the piped in cheers on smackdown.

Oh and Ricardo is more over than Del Rio. That's sad. Del Rio needs to get out of the world title picture and get dropped to the ic/us title picture where he belongs.
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I would rather Ricardo be WHC than Del Rio.
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Hes an EXACT replica of Sheamus.

1)He now has his own version of sheamus's Chest Rope Clubbing and doing it 10 times. (Watch the last raw)
2)He also has his own brogue kick warmup for his cross arm breaker, doing that show me your face shtick.
3)He also has his own predictable comeback sequence that comes standard to a babyface. He has completed his transformation into Goofy Babyface #5723.
4)He tries to make jokes against the always angry and serious heel opponent


Apparently these 4 things are whats needed to be a babyface. A stupid chant everyone can do, counting everyone can do, and whatever other crap they try to force onto the "WWE Universe".

They see us as a bunch of cheering puppets, feeding into whatever chants they force upon us. Whether it be Brogue or Feed Me More. For the first few weeks ADR came across as a badass face. Then they took away his car (Why!?!), at least have the car for PPV entrances, Im hoping his WM entrance will be something fancy with cars and not something that plays on his heritage. But knowing the WWE's hardon for culture stereotypes Im sure we will be hearing a mariachi band play Del Rio's entrance.
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His WM entrance is going to be something incredibly cheesy and difficult to like, like some Mexican band playing shitty music.
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I posted the following response in the RAW 1/14/13 official discussion thread. I believe it was either the first or second RAW after Del Rio's abrupt, senseless face turn and there were actually users here who were getting behind him. I couldn't believe it because quite frankly he's been so factually, and predictably... bad.

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You know I'm seeing a lot of people getting behind face Del Rio right now and I hate to be the party pooper but I'm sorry, I don't see it. He's now no different than every other face on the roster. Lame jokes, insults, and gags. Sheamus was pretty much the irish Cena, now it appears that Del Rio is a the latino Cena.

You will get tired of this very soon, just as you all did with Sheamus. The WWE knows no other way to build a face outside of turning them into smart asses.
No need to say I told you so. I'm pretty sure anyone with half a brain saw it coming.
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They did it to Sheamus and they are doing it to ADR. I've been on and off the ADR wagon before his face turn and I was actually a little excited but still worried that WWE would ruin it. And ruined it they have. Why do all the faces have to be carbon copies of Cena (Corny, pandering, and goofy). Shouldn't the WWE have a damn clue that A LOT of people hate Cena for these characteristics? I marked for Sheamus since the day he debuted on the main roster and at first loved his face turn. Remember his first encounter with Mark Henry? *Oh yeah I want to fight! face* while saying "I'll fight him!". That was golden. Now I can't even stand to look at Sheamus anymore. His matches used to be really good now they are Cena-esque. And now ADR travels down this road. Just boils down to WWE being out of touch.
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Since becoming a face his in ring skills have vastly been improved so I'm happy about that.
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Actually, I still like Del Rio as a face. I find him appealing, engaging, and effective. If he continues down this road, he very may well become Cena/Sheamus III, but he's not there yet, and I'm holding out hope.
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