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Old 12-22-2012, 01:36 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Default Re: Should Daniel Bryan be pushed as the top guy on Smackdown after WM29?

Should, but won't. Smackdown is feeding time for Ryback.

Ziggler ain't winning that belt either. Ryback is running through Show at Mania and Ryback is not dropping the belt before MITB 2013.
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Old 12-22-2012, 08:16 PM   #53 (permalink)
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Who would want to be a top face in an awful show like Smackdown?
The wrestlers make the show. Batista, Undertaker, Kurt Angle, Brock Lesnar. That's leaving out some of the greatest technical wrestlers ever. If SD has great talent and stories, it'll be a great show again. SmackDown is still a major platform to succeed, even if it is short of Raw right now. Sheamus, Del Rio, Bryan, Ziggler? That's a great roster.

Bryan as champion would be great, cuz the Raw champion can still be the top 'storyline' guy, like Cena or Punk, while SD just has the obviously legit wrestler and the guaranteed great match. It treats the WHC with tradition and respect. The best part of the brand extension is that different shows/titles can feature different styles, and Bryan as the champ exemplifies that. Would love to see Bryan as the Raw champ, too, but holding the SD is still huge.
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Old 12-23-2012, 02:50 AM   #54 (permalink)
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He should be challenging for the WWE TITLE.
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Not on Smackdown, but on Raw. He has what it takes but Vince will never push him because he is 5 feet tall and doesn't have big muscles. What a shame.
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Old 12-23-2012, 05:57 AM   #56 (permalink)
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Default Re: Should Daniel Bryan be pushed as the top guy on Smackdown after WM29?

In response to the question the thread posed: no.

Perhaps in a year after they abandon this bullshit YES/NO nonsense, give him a decent character and let the guy work instead of saddling him with comedy (that includes giving him back his moveset, not the 3-4 moves he repeats ad nauseum). But as long as he keeps up with YES/NO, I don't want to see him on my TV screen period, let alone being pushed as a top guy.

Thankfully, it most likely won't happen. Comedy doesn't draw, and Bryan is FIRMLY comedy right now. Hence, he'll probably be doing the same type of thing in 4 months.
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Old 12-23-2012, 06:32 AM   #57 (permalink)
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The no clean wins thing wasn't ideal for me, but I still have to disagree with this entire claim.

why? It's obvious. He's proven this time after time: comedy dies once he's in the ring. Besides, if the company pushed him to be serious then, here's the shocker, it would happen. He'd be serious all the time. It would be smart to keep the YES/NO thing going though. That's what helped establish him as a very over talent.
Comedy dies once he's in the ring? Are you joking? Have you ever watched a Bryan match? His multiple kicks screaming YES and NO...what do you call that? COMEDY. Arguing with fans during matches? COMEDY.

And you are missing a very key part of this whole puzzle. Guys like Mick Foley and Kane-when they started down the path to becoming more comedy oriented characters, both already had solid careers under their belts that established them as serious performers. People always remember Kane in the Inferno match or lightning Taker's casket on fire, or Foley's crazy bumps at the HIAC, for example. Same goes for Austin, Rock, anybody. Bryan absolutely does NOT have the background that these guys have. His first big break was as a joke character, so that has set the pace for his career. Its basically going to be impossible for him to outgrow the little niche he's carved out for himself. Just because you book someone to be serious doesn't mean that they're going to say "hey, we should take this guy seriously now." Or have you just not paid attention to anything Alberto Del Rio has been doing this year?

The ONLY wrestler who I've seen get over after dabbling in comedy initially is Kurt Angle, and that's because he was portrayed as a serious performer who happened to be somewhat of a dork outside the ring. It was more of a character trait. Kurt would do a bunch of serious stuff and then do a couple comedy segments, for example. He'd win the IC title from Jericho, cut a serious promo about how he's the Eurocontinental champion and how much that meant, and then you'd see him give Michael Cole a hug or something weird. Serious character with some comedic qualities. Not this ugly little goblin who exists to make goat jokes and chant two stupid, inane words over and over again-that is literally Bryan's whole character. There's nothing non-comedic about him. He's 100% a joke with no depth or character progression. THAT is why people won't take him seriously as a top guy.

Look at Santino-he was massively over as well. He's 100% a comedy character like Bryan. Why aren't people pushing for him to have a title reign? Simple-the Bryan blowhards and blind marks refuse to see anything their messiah does in a bad light, so they blindly swallow this garbage and expect its going to result in him being the next mega star. Meanwhile they expect the other comedy characters to just accept their place on the roster-nice double standard.

It WILL NOT happen. He's over now, bully for him. However, you think that people are going to take him the least bit seriously if he wins the title? They'll be too busy chanting at him and trying to argue with him-great when you're trying to cut that big scathing promo. Its like Taker and Trips getting WHAT chants earlier this year. Casuals are from now on always going to view him as the YES/NO guy, and that's the kiss of death for his career.
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Default Re: Should Daniel Bryan be pushed as the top guy on Smackdown after WM29?

I would say that Sheamus is not this overwhelmingly popular babyface that the wwe wants him to be just yet. He was overshadowed twice by daniel Bryan , even when he beat him at wrestlemania in 18 seconds , no one was talking about how much of a bad ass sheamus looked. I wish they did a double turn at extreme rules , have bryan turn face and sheamus turn heel.

As for now, to me smackdown has been a damaged brand for awhile, i am going to make a thread on that pretty soon, i would like to see that brand return to the more successful and critically acclaimed 2002-2003 era where they had the show emphasize in ring action a bit more, where you had the smackdown seven and then outside of that you had your special attractions like taker, big show, hogan and then you had other characters like heyman, stephanie, dawn marie.

If they can rebuild smackdown which should be one of the goals next year then daniel bryan should be one of the guys they commit to in order to fulfill this.
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Old 12-23-2012, 10:55 AM   #59 (permalink)
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Default Re: Should Daniel Bryan be pushed as the top guy on Smackdown after WM29?

Sure. But what the hell is the point? If the supershow ended and Smackdown was Smackdown, and RAW was WAR again, then it'd be great to see. Otherwise, I don't really care.

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There is no more brand splits. How could someone "stay" on RAW when they work on Smackdown too? Only people that don't are Punk & Cena (full time). Rest is fair game.

Why am I the only person who seems to have noticed this? Feel like I'm in an episode of the Twilight Zone.
No, I noticed it too, and I noticed that people aren't noticing it too. Some think the titles have stayed brand loyal, but they've not even kept that. Nothing is sacred any more.
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In response to the question the thread posed: no.

Perhaps in a year after they abandon this bullshit YES/NO nonsense, give him a decent character and let the guy work instead of saddling him with comedy (that includes giving him back his moveset, not the 3-4 moves he repeats ad nauseum). But as long as he keeps up with YES/NO, I don't want to see him on my TV screen period, let alone being pushed as a top guy.
You'd call his comedy a burden? It's what's kept him one of the most entertaining people on the roster. Would you likewise say that Kurt Angle's comedy was a burden?
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Sure. But what the hell is the point? If the supershow ended and Smackdown was Smackdown, and RAW was WAR again, then it'd be great to see. Otherwise, I don't really care.



No, I noticed it too, and I noticed that people aren't noticing it too. Some think the titles have stayed brand loyal, but they've not even kept that. Nothing is sacred any more.

You'd call his comedy a burden? It's what's kept him one of the most entertaining people on the roster. Would you likewise say that Kurt Angle's comedy was a burden?
While the midcard titles aren't confined to the brands, the World Titles are very brand loyal. They go out of their way to say that the RAW GM can't make decisions regarding the World Heavyweight Title. When CM Punk appeared on SmackDown a few months back, he didn't even feel like part of the show. It felt like a guest appearance. Big Show was moved back to SD when he returned from his hiatus. And I'm pretty sure that Ziggler will be officially moved to SD once he cashes in the briefcase. And if Ryback is to be WHC at Mania, he will be moved back to SD.

While wresters from other brands challenge for the titles, I don't think the World Titles will ever actually switch brands.
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