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Old 10-21-2012, 03:47 PM   #31 (permalink)
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His run with the Money in the Bank briefcase is the worst to date. Yes, even worse than Swagger's as that only lasted a couple of days. I have no idea what WWE is doing with him at this point. I don't know why Vickie is still around. I don't know why he still acts like a midcarder. I don't understand what they're doing at all. And while Ziggler's matches will always be entertaining, I can't see him undergoing some kind of dramatic metamorphosis of sorts the way Daniel Bryan did once he won the World Heavyweight Championship and WWE placed him in the unevniable spot of trying to grow into the role retroactively (which is what they ostensibly do with everyone now and it sucks). Ziggler has talent but I can't see him pulling that off. They would be so much better off slowly, smartly modifying his character and making it much more compelling.

The matches during his reign will probably be very impressive, but otherwise, they are setting him up for failure in just about every other way that counts.
I don't know Daniel Bryan's was pretty close; he was teaming with Sin Cara then jobbing to Barrett weekly until he got involved in Show and Henry's feud, where he still had little credibility. Then he got a run with the belt and a heel turn and really elevated him.
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Pretty shitty tbh. I said it the second he won it. Getting MITB these days means absolutely nothing. It takes you from being a midcarder to a glorified midcarder. What an achievement. They need to scrap it entirely and go back to building their stars/champions the proper way and the way that actually works.
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It's hard to believe his WHC reign will last until Wrestlemania since he has a mtvh with Zack Ryder.I think it will be epic if he loses to Ryder and then cashes his MITB contract and become the WHC.
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Old 10-21-2012, 03:56 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Considering that Ziggler is basically a jobber at this point, I'm going to guess pretty shitty.
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Old 10-21-2012, 04:00 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Pretty shitty tbh. I said it the second he won it. Getting MITB these days means absolutely nothing. It takes you from being a midcarder to a glorified midcarder. What an achievement. They need to scrap it entirely and go back to building their stars/champions the proper way and the way that actually works.
What? By giving them mic time, developing their characters and putting them over in feuds? You're crazy, it'd never work.
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Old 10-21-2012, 04:06 PM   #36 (permalink)
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He will be the perfect chickenshit heel lol. still gonna suck since every heel champ seems to be one other than Mark Henry most recently.
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Pretty shitty tbh. I said it the second he won it. Getting MITB these days means absolutely nothing. It takes you from being a midcarder to a glorified midcarder. What an achievement. They need to scrap it entirely and go back to building their stars/champions the proper way and the way that actually works.
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Old 10-21-2012, 04:19 PM   #38 (permalink)
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Pretty shitty tbh. I said it the second he won it. Getting MITB these days means absolutely nothing. It takes you from being a midcarder to a glorified midcarder. What an achievement. They need to scrap it entirely and go back to building their stars/champions the proper way and the way that actually works.
Well damn. I don't think giving people slowly rising victories feuds and mic time will work. You know, they might even get over with the crowd.
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In theory, beating 7 other men in a ladder match should be a great way to get a midcarder over as a maineventer. But it's everything that follows that is the undoing of the guy. For starters, cashing in on a downed Champion is a heel tactic which limits things and even though it's no been going THAT long it's already very over-done. Plus WWE seems to have a habit of jobbing out the winners prior to their title win, which makes no sense to me at all. They basically seem to go out of their way to make the guys not seem credible as main-eventers.
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I honestly hope they don't give him the belt at all, and not because I dislike Ziggler. I'm just sick of them giving an obligatory title run to every talent that makes it's way up the ladder. The wrestler should be getting the title because they are already over as fuck not receiving title reigns in order to get them over further, because in that regard Ziggler isn't even close to where he needs to be.
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