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Smackdown 10/19, Main Event & SMS Spoilers

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#1 · (Edited by Moderator)
Main Event:

* Josh Mathews interviews Kofi Kingston.

* Kofi Kingston defeated The Miz to win the Intercontinental Title

* Dolph Ziggler defeated Zack Ryder

http://www.wrestlinginc.com/wi/news/2012/1016/557203/



SMS:

(Guess who's back)

* The Great Khali defeated Primo

* The Usos beat Titus O'Neil and Darren Young
http://www.wrestlinginc.com/wi/news/2012/1016/557207/



Smackdown:

http://www.wrestlinginc.com/wi/news/2012/1016/557208/sheamus/

SmackDown spoilers from tonight's tapings in Memphis, Tennessee:

Dark Match:

* Johnny Curtis defeated indy wrestler Drew Haskins.


SmackDown, Airing Friday:

* The Miz kicks off SmackDown with another MizTV segment. He's upset about losing the Intercontinental Title to Kofi Kingston on Main Event. Miz demands a rematch at the Hell In a Cell pay-per-view. Miz is joined by Kane and Daniel Bryan as his guests. Miz predicts the champs will lose their belts at Hell In a Cell and rips into Bryan. Big Show comes out as does Dolph Ziggler. They all argue and out comes Booker T. Booker books Team Hell No vs. Ziggler and Show for later tonight. Miz will go up against Randy Orton.


* Randy Orton defeated The Miz with a RKO. Alberto Del Rio and Ricardo Rodriguez were seen watching the match from one of the arena luxury boxes.


* Sheamus is backstage wanting a rematch against Wade Barrett. Teddy Long makes Sheamus vs. Barrett in a Lumberjack Match for later.


* Cody Rhodes and Damien Sandow defeated Justin Gabriel and Tyson Kidd in a quick match.


* Backstage segment with Eve Torres, Booker and Teddy. Eve puts Teddy down in front of Booker again.


* Daniel Bryan and Kane defeated Big Show and Dolph Ziggler in a non-title match. Ziggler and Show worked over Bryan for about ten minutes until he made the hot tag to Kane. Bryan tagged back in and locked Ziggler in the No! Lock for the submission victory. Rhodes Scholars came out and attacked Team Hell No as they were celebrating/arguing on the stage.


* Antonio Cesaro defeated Ted DiBiase in a non-title match. Ted DiBiase entered his same old music. A video aired of Cesaro in front of Sun Studio. He ran down Memphis and Elvis for cheap heat. Cesaro won in three minutes with the Neutralizer.


* 3 Man Band made their way to the ring. They called themselves the greatest group in WWE. Drew McIntyre popped a few eardrums with his Axl Rose impression. Out came Brodus Clay for a match against Slater.

Heath Slater beat Brodus Clay. Slater won in three minutes after distractions from Mahal and McIntyre.


* Layla defeated Natalya.


*World Hvt. Champion Sheamus defeated Wade Barrett in a lumberjack match. The lumberjacks started brawling per usual, then Team Hell No showed up to brawl. Amidst the confusion, Sheamus hit the brogue kick on Barrett for the win.
 
#154 ·
Re: SPOILERS* Barrett on this week's SD

No, I'm pretty sure I didn't, because I would never want another undeserved Big Show reign, however short.

Even in a fatal four way, he's still going to lose, so what the fuck does it matter?

At the end of the day, I can't stop you from thinking whatever you're going to think. If you want to live in this fantasy land where he's going to main event and win world titles, then fine, but come WrestleMania time, when Sheamus, Ryback and Ziggler are in main event programs and Barrett is jobbing to Brodus Clay, I'll say I told you so.
 
#161 ·
Re: SPOILERS* Barrett on this week's SD

I'll make you a deal. If Barrett isn't in a meaningful main event match or WHC match you can say I told you so til your fingers are numb. Oh and thanks for the nightmares of the big dancing dinosaur in a meaningful match at mania dude much appreciated.
 
#162 ·
Re: SPOILERS* Barrett on this week's SD

I'll make you a deal. If Barrett isn't in a meaningful main event match or WHC match you can say I told you so til your fingers are numb. Oh and thanks for the nightmares of the big dancing dinosaur in a meaningful match at mania dude much appreciated.
Let's just say WHC or WWE Championship match, because there's no such thing as any other meaningful main event match for a non world champion. I have NO desire at all to see Barrett face somebody like The Undertaker only to job and get nothing out of it.
 
#163 · (Edited)
Re: SPOILERS* Barrett on this week's SD

Fuck patience, we've been patient for far too long. Del Rio, Sheamus, Bryan, and even Swagger won the title before he did in less time. Swagger has a world title on his record and he doesn't, that's an atrocity against pro wrestling. Even Ryback, one of the most one dimensional, horrible performers in the business is winning the title before he'll get a fair shot. Enough is enough, there's only so many times you can get kicked in the nuts and not speak up.
 
#168 · (Edited)
- Once again the only thing worth checking out on SD involves Team Hell No.

"Sheamus is backstage wanting a rematch against Wade Barrett. Teddy Long makes Sheamus vs. Barrett in a Lumberjack Match for later."

- I literally screamed out "What the Fuck ?" when i saw this.
So now instead of beating up Jobbers Wade is getting beat up by Sheamus every week ?

I said as soon as he returned that he'd be behind Sheamus, ADR, Orton & Ziggler when it comes to the HWT.

- I wish i could say the jobbing Brodus is doing will lead to something but it won't.
Like Ryder the haters will act like his pushing and de-pushing was inevitable.

- Wrestle against champion ? check
Lose against champion ? check
Lose against other wrestlers ? check
Have cash-in thwarted by champion ? check
Have cash-in thwarted by other wrestlers ? check

When he does successfully cash in i don't want to hear anyone talking about them booking Ziggler strongly.
He was booked like sh*t before he won MITB, while holding MITB and will be while HWC.
 
#171 ·
I suppose Kofi is at his glass ceiling again with the IC Championship, here's hoping he gives it everything and breaks it. For a jobber he does get his fair share of titles, this is his third this year actually and 9th over-all.

As for Barrett, I suppose inevitably Sheamus was gonna get the win, his momentum is shot but who knows. Al I know is that he was inconsequential in this feud which was all about Big Show and Sheamus.

Once again Hell No! are given a lot of screen time, I think that was three segments, about tied with Sheamus this time who was the important one in the ME so there is that.

Ted DiBiase is back on TV, and it looks like WWE couldn't care less.
 
#175 ·
Re: SPOILERS* Barrett on this week's SD

Yeah, but Ezekiel Jackson became a big star from that.

I mean, really. Zeke's push was a case of pushing the wrong guy over on a guy who should have been pushed instead. Ryback has, well, backed up his push. And Ryback's push hasn't hurt anyone like Zeke's push, which set Barrett back an eternity.
 
#178 ·
Re: SPOILERS* Barrett on this week's SD

Meh, being in the ME against the WHC is not jobbing when you get a good match out of them.

Ted DiBiase jobbed last night, Wade Barrett did not. He just lost. WWE clearly don't hate him hence the attention he gets.
Then where the fuck's his world title? Attention, in and of itself has no merit, it's about accomplishments.
 
#183 ·
Re: SPOILERS* Barrett on this week's SD

I'm just saying what the facts are. WWE gives people they appreciate world titles. That's what happens. This isn't exactly a shock.
Do you really care what the WWE hands their employees if you enjoy the performer/s?

They don't value midcarders, that's why they don't headline PPV's.
They're called midcarders for a reason. They're valued for other things. You can't have an entire roster of main eventers.
 
#182 ·
Re: SPOILERS* Barrett on this week's SD

Seems like he lost because of the lumberjacks anyway. At least he is back to main eventing and putting on good matches. Their is still plenty of time for him to win the World Title.
 
#187 · (Edited)
Re: SPOILERS* Barrett on this week's SD

Rewarded with what? More air time for you to enjoy them?

I don't see why you'd have a problem with guys playing the game of politics in a politically-laden environment.
And with a world championship.

I'm not blaming them for using politics, I'm saying I don't want them to use it because I can't stand these fuckers, they're horrible performers, and because they're horrible performers, I don't want them to get world titles, I don't want them to get wins, and I don't want them to get more money. Especially over the people who actually deserve them. I never said it was their FAULT for playing politics, I GET it.

Of course, You have more established mid carders who float around that region and occasionally go higher to fulfil main-event roles on occasion. You have others that a strictly a feature of the show's 'middle' crux, while there are the rest of them who aren't featured too often on the main platforms.
Exactly, and those are the ones WWE is not high on. They can't be high on everyone, I understand that, so they place them into the unimportant roles they have to fill up. One such person happens to be the guy who should alternate Raw's top heel spot with Punk, and is being critically ignored for no other reason than because of where he was born.

Why do you watch? I just have to ask, since you're giving me the impression that you think literally nothing that ever happens matters. It doesn't matter who main events, it doesn't matter who midcards, it doesn't matter who jobs, everybody is just in a role and it makes no difference who does what. If I've said something you don't agree with, then correct me because reading this conversation, that's what I'm getting from you, and I don't know why somebody with that mentality would have any desire to follow a product where you don't care about who goes where.

It's a better position to lose to the unbeatable world champion than it is beating Justin Gabriel, although I agree that Barrett's a floater at the moment with no particular role.
No, it isn't a better position, it's the SAME position. There are only 2 positions in WWE, world champions and non world champions. Barrett has never had a shot with the world title, therefore, nobody takes him seriously and never will unless Vince lets go of whatever petty grudge he's always had against English talent (and has prominently displayed this on tv with things such as Pirate gimmicks and humiliating William Regal, one of the greatest all around performers in history almost as badly as Jim Ross) and puts him in the spot where he belongs, with the title.
 
#239 ·
Re: SPOILERS* Barrett on this week's SD

And with a world championship.

I'm not blaming them for using politics, I'm saying I don't want them to use it because I can't stand these fuckers, they're horrible performers, and because they're horrible performers, I don't want them to get world titles, I don't want them to get wins, and I don't want them to get more money. Especially over the people who actually deserve them. I never said it was their FAULT for playing politics, I GET it.
Heh heh. Perhaps your faves should get a few tips from them then? They don't appear to be doing enough backstage to pick their spot, eh?

Why do you watch? I just have to ask, since you're giving me the impression that you think literally nothing that ever happens matters. It doesn't matter who main events, it doesn't matter who midcards, it doesn't matter who jobs, everybody is just in a role and it makes no difference who does what. If I've said something you don't agree with, then correct me because reading this conversation, that's what I'm getting from you, and I don't know why somebody with that mentality would have any desire to follow a product where you don't care about who goes where.
Now just hold on one minute. When did I ever say that the person picked for a role doesn't matter? That’s a ridiculous notion in terms of business and, to a lesser extent, my own opinion, although that counts for little in the scheme of what you’re describing. The people are picked for the roles based on what the company wants to be represented as and give the fans a chance to select and follow. I honestly have no idea why you went down that path, although it's curious that my questioning your philosophy has prompted this assumption. The way you speak of this is similar to one investing themselves in a sports team.

As for myself, let me put it this way: we're old enough and (should be) wise enough to have the insight into what the company presents as important and what is put aside as of lesser value. I think what your idea of what is important is flip-flopping because you’ve been speaking of booking all throughout this thread and question the current state, yet are so adamant he must win a prop that has lost a fair bit of its significance in a writing point of view. Discussing those things, as well as watching these strange, dedicated people go out and try their hand in this form of storytelling is far, far more interesting to me than 85% of material the company churns out and labels family entertainment (especially on the flagship show).

Before it's brought up, I do value the world title. It's the most important prop the company can possess and should really be treated as such. However, since this company is becoming more about family entertainment rather than professional wrestling, the company props its main draw card in Cena and a few other huge names above all else. People will contest that business calls for such measures but I argue that it’ll come at the expense of other business ventures and marquee acts. I’m beginning to digress from my original point though, so I’ll stop there for now

No, it isn't a better position, it's the SAME position. There are only 2 positions in WWE, world champions and non world champions. Barrett has never had a shot with the world title, therefore, nobody takes him seriously and never will unless Vince lets go of whatever petty grudge he's always had against English talent (and has prominently displayed this on tv with things such as Pirate gimmicks and humiliating William Regal, one of the greatest all around performers in history almost as badly as Jim Ross) and puts him in the spot where he belongs, with the title.
You want the best for Barrett because you rate him highly, but the titles nowadays certainly don’t guarantee they’ll be treated as heightened commodities. As for you taking him more seriously with the title, well, didn’t you say you think Sheamus looks so ridiculous that he can’t be considered a threat? The near-invincibility of his booking certainly didn’t save him from your critique.

I certainly won’t take the current Barrett seriously as champ, nor will many others, because there’s nothing of value behind him whilst in that position. No direction, no particularly investment-worthy programs outside of maybe Sheamus (although they may’ve burnt up a bit of their meal ticket already with that one), pretty boring character that will undoubtedly fall into the same ‘cowardly heel on the run from the face’ archetype that has made up a huge chunk of the ME scene for the past three years. And after he loses it, then what? Probably back to the position he is now.

You can interpret what makes a success story based on what the company says, but you're experienced enough to know or speculate when things are genuine and when they aren't. The main event scene is not very prosperous one and the titles aren’t held in the same esteem as they once were. They don’t even ensure the guy’s spot will be safe anymore due to the haphazardness of guys like Swagger getting the push and then realizing he’s not working as much as they’d like.

So why is it again you want Barrett to get that much eluded world title? What huge changes will it bring? Do you consider that the totem pole of your own taste in wrestlers, the world titles that is? Is that a form of validation on your part, his, or both?
 
#189 ·
Re: SPOILERS* Barrett on this week's SD

Pyro, they can't ignore him, regals an exception to the rule you cant deny vince has pushed him. remember when he was king of the ring and GM? Did Vince plant drugs on him so he could suspend him? No he fucked up didnt he? That was his second violation too, Randys had his second violation recently and his floating now. Wade is in a better position then Regal, younger, dare I say has more charisma and just just better on the mic.

Now if you have proof that regal didnt screw up his major push towards what looked like a WWE championship I will agree Vince is a bigotted piece of shit who needs to retire before he kills his creation.
 
#192 · (Edited)
Re: SPOILERS* Barrett on this week's SD

Pyro, they can't ignore him
Ummm, no, I'm pretty sure they CAN. And they HAVE.

regals an exception to the rule you cant deny vince has pushed him.
Watch me do it right now.

remember when he was king of the ring and GM? Did Vince plant drugs on him so he could suspend him? No he fucked up didnt he?
He wouldn't have become world champion anyway. That ENTIRE push was designed for Mr. Kennedy. The plan all along was for Kennedy to dethrone Regal from power, get rid of the big power threat in WWE and thrust Kennedy back into the main event picture, but Regal got suspended so they threw that angle in the trash. He was not getting pushed ANYWAY, it was never in the cards.

That was his second violation too, Randys had his second violation recently and his floating now.
Jeff Hardy didn't get punished for his second. NO excuses.

Wade is in a better position then Regal, younger, dare I say has more charisma and just just better on the mic.
I'm a bigger Barrett fan but he doesn't have more charisma than Regal. He has a better look, more stage presence and is arguably better on the mic. That's extremely debateable. Either way, he has enough to be pushed. Randy Orton has none and look at him. And no, he's not in a better position, he's in the same position, and he will be in the same position forever UNLESS he wins the world title, because there are only 2 positions, there are the guys who have been world champion, and the guys who have not been. Wade Barrett is no more accomplished or better off than Aiden English or Jake Carter on NXT. That all hinges on the world championship.

Now if you have proof that regal didnt screw up his major push towards what looked like a WWE championship I will agree Vince is a bigotted piece of shit who needs to retire before he kills his creation.
No, I'll admit he screwed up, but I know the angle was never for him. Every credible source of the day made it perfectly clear it was orchesrated solely for Kennedy.

Vince has never had one English world champion in the history of his company. You would think that with all of the English wrestlers available to him, ONE of them would've won the title by now, in 30 years of him running the company. It's not like Barrett is Vietnamese or something and Vince can't get access to any, English wrestlers are EVERYWHERE. There is no excuse that not one of them has won the title. Even if it was a bad one, just to prove that he's fucking with Barrett for something other than his nationality. And there's not. Fantastic look, great on the mic, huge presence, carries himself well, he's a good brawler and WWE likes their good brawlers, he's proven that he can handle the pressure of carrying the biggest storyline in the company and he's never caused any problems in the back. If he was Irish he'd be as accomplished as Sheamus, I'm convinced of it.
 
#190 · (Edited)
Re: SPOILERS* Barrett on this week's SD

The first post in this thread is completely weird, what has Chavo got to do with Wade...Can someone explain what the actual spoiler is?

Edit: Nvm found out, well that's a disappointment, are the writers of smackdown and raw the same? because losing clean after two very good matches seems pretty stupid.
 
#191 ·
Re: SPOILERS* Barrett on this week's SD

I was giving an actual example of a burial, that was the closest thing ive seen to one. losing repeatedly to the little bastard.
 
#194 ·
Re: SPOILERS* Barrett on this week's SD

Oh, ok points to you for that. I think the one big difference between Sheamus and Barrett BESIDES Sheamus being a main eventer is Barrett will be remembered for good reasons, whereas Sheamus is a Batista clone, tough motherfucker who you buy as a threat but one dimensional as all shit....ok his worse then Batista which means years from now people will forget his run at the top. Yes I despise the fella that much.
 
#196 ·
Ya know who's buried? Yoshi Tatsu. Ya know who isn't? Barrett and Miz. Please learn the difference between the levels of these guys.

Looks like a decent show overall. I'm OK with Sheamus/Barrett for a third time because the first 2 were entertaining matches and Kane/DBD vs. Show and Ziggler should be decent for what it is. I'm pretty shocked to see Slater go over Brodus but hopefully this is the beginning of that rumored Clay heel turn.
 
#197 ·
:mark: Sandow attacking Bryan
 
#204 · (Edited)
You into a little beard on beard action?

LOL @ WWE fucking over Barrett's push once again. Can this company do anything right? I suppose on the bright side, when he finally quits, Kassius Ohno will get to do his gimmick again.
I don't think Barrett will be quitting any time soon. If you follow him on twitter, you'd be able to see he's very finincially driven, and seems pretty happy with his place in the company, which is a shame, he should aim higher.

Who gives a shit about Chris Hero? Fuck him, he's nowhere near the league of Wade Barrett.
 
#198 ·
Your obsession with Vince hating brits is just painful to read about at this point...
he created a title for Bulldog, put him in many major storylines & mainevents, he only lost once in the UK (specifically to make the rematch even bigger) and did great in a few royal rumbles. That's after being fired for HGH (and other misdemeanors) and jumping ship multiple times. Also by direct comparison WCW did nothing with him!

Barret hasn't had much heat since a little after Nexus, even when he put Orton out.... There's been appearances on Raw with zero reaction. You can try to justify it anyway you want, the audience just doesn't care about him.
 
#200 · (Edited)
Re: SPOILERS* Barrett on this week's SD

Your obsession with Vince hating brits is just painful to read about at this point...
he created a title for Bulldog, put him in many major storylines & mainevents, he only lost once in the UK (specifically to make the rematch even bigger) and did great in a few royal rumbles. That's after being fired for HGH (and other misdemeanors) and jumping ship multiple times. Also by direct comparison WCW did nothing with him!
None of that matters, he didn't win the big one. End of.

Barret hasn't had much heat since a little after Nexus, even when he put Orton out.... There's been appearances on Raw with zero reaction. You can try to justify it anyway you want, the audience just doesn't care about him.
They don't care about him because he's been fucked with so many times and the audience knows there's no point in getting invested in someone Vince will just do start and stop pushes on. He was the biggest heel in the company, by far, and how does the WWE respond to this? That's right, they bury him 6 feet deep, having him do jobs for people like Ezekiel Jackson, because that is EXACTLY what you're meant to do when a talent gets red hot, destroy them. Then when they give him an elevation, they don't take it seriously again, he gets a few fluke wins over Orton and then Orton absolutely murders him by RKO'ing him onto a car, a chair, throwing him into a buffet table, whatever the fuck you can think of, then they hype him as the potential Rumble winner and he gets thrown out in 5 minutes like he was nothing, then he gets injured and he comes back and they REFUSE to give him a microphone, the tool most critical to his getting over, when talking is his biggest attribute, and they have him beating jobbers instead of getting back into a feud. And you DARE suggest that that's down to him sucking? Bullshit.

Also, if you want to justify that he's not being pushed because he's not over



:rolleyes:

Royal Rumble win, Money In The Bank, 2 WWE Championships, clean victories over the likes of Orton, not dirty, CLEAN, absolutely legit, 100% clean, and dead silence in absolutely every single arena across America. FUCK overness, since when did the champion draw in this day and age anyway? Nobody moves ratings or buyrates but Cena and the part timer legends.
 
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