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Old 10-12-2012, 08:26 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default So, is Daniel Bryan a heel? + Dolph Ziggler conspiracy.

One of the most intriguing aspects about DB, is is he a heel or not? This thing really has Vince confused, because in my estimation, DB is a face, who does not even act heelish anymore - but is treated as a heel. (The same with Kane, but that is DB's influence).

Seriously, this has made DB the most interesting character in a long time.


Sooooo.


Why has Vince not screwed this up yet? Is it the ability of DB to take a turd, and polish it to gold? Is Kane protecting DB from Vince's manipulations?


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Why is Dolph not wearing his pink T shirt anymore. He appeared in the ads against breast cancer, then changed his shirt. Then Cena starts wearing pink. Anyone think that the present charity push was instituted by Ziggles, but WWE gave the credit to Cena?
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Old 10-12-2012, 08:32 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Bryan had piped in boos on Smackdown for some reason despite the fact that he was facing the guy who is supposed to be the top heel on the show. TBH I think he's still treated as a heel simply because they don't want to acknowledge that he is popular, similar to how they try and pretend that the 'yes' chants are because people are mocking him, and how they sometimes tell the commentators to talk about his 'decline' since WM despite the fact that he has become the most over guy by far in that time. This sort of idiocy is why the ratings are shot, if only they would push people that the fans actually want to see instead of forcing garbage like Sheamus and Del Rio down our throats and then wondering why people are tuning out.
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Someone put it perfectly in a D-Bry thread a few weeks back: He WAS a heel who thought he was a face, now he's a face who thinks he's a heel. And the crowd cheers for him no matter what. It's an odd situation. Though he's not really being a heel any more, I don't think WWE quite wants to pull the trigger on a true face turn. Which is strange, since he'd probably be HUGE as a face at this point, but there you have it. I think it hasn't gone sour yet because D-Bry is just too hot. They haven't ruined him because they CAN'T.

As for Ziggles & the breast cancer campaign, I don't think it was his idea, I think WWE just wanted Cena as the lone guy to wear pink to support the cause (Sandow stopped wearing pink too). It'd look alot better if EVERYONE wore pink, but y'know...we need more reasons to like Cena too.
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Default Re: So, is Daniel Bryan a heel? + Dolph Ziggler conspiracy.

I don't think he's really being pushed as a heel. He and Kane seem to be faces right now, even though they have violent "anger management problems".

They didn't pipe in any boos for the DB/ADR match for DB either. It's on my tv literally right now and he just got a big pop when he came out. Not sure what you're talking about with them piping in boos OP.

Basically, I think he's a face that occaisionally does a few heel things like NO!-Locking Matt Striker for asking him an annoying question. But the heel things he does just get cheers. That's what happens with faces sometimes. You can do stuff like that and still get cheers. It doesn't mean they're trying to make him a heel.

DB's getting a solid push right now, not sure what the complaints are about.



Ziggler thing, I dunno. But you may be right about it.
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Old 10-12-2012, 08:47 PM   #5 (permalink)
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They piped in boos during the backstage confrontation. And wait until the end of the match before you claim that Bryan is getting a solid push.
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Ziggler is a heel, so he can't be against cancer. Him wearing pink this time of year would get him cheers! (not really)
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Bryan had piped in boos on Smackdown for some reason despite the fact that he was facing the guy who is supposed to be the top heel on the show. TBH I think he's still treated as a heel simply because they don't want to acknowledge that he is popular, similar to how they try and pretend that the 'yes' chants are because people are mocking him, and how they sometimes tell the commentators to talk about his 'decline' since WM despite the fact that he has become the most over guy by far in that time. This sort of idiocy is why the ratings are shot, if only they would push people that the fans actually want to see instead of forcing garbage like Sheamus and Del Rio down our throats and then wondering why people are tuning out.
Those Boos were definitely piped in, I was at the tapings last tuesday and he was mostly cheered, nearly nobody booed him, and I saw a ton of Bryan fans at the tapings
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He is a Face who thinks he is a heel.

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Default Re: So, is Daniel Bryan a heel? + Dolph Ziggler conspiracy.

they just want to make money off a new ziggler shirt. I bought so many of the pink ones they thought they'd try another...it worked.

but, if they keep screwing Ziggler into bad booking, own't he end up as super over with the crowd (based on the Daniel Bryan equation; lose in 18 seconds = GOAT for at least 18 months).
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he is both. One second he does heel stuff and the other he does face stuff.
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