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Old 01-24-2013, 11:28 AM   #121 (permalink)
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I'll likely watch just because it's the last show before the Rumble and the Punk/Rock stuff, but matches like Sheamus/Barrett that we ALREADY saw on this weeks RAW is pointless. No one wants to see it again and this is why people don't watch Smackdown. No Ziggler on the show gets a from me.
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Old 01-24-2013, 11:52 AM   #122 (permalink)
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SmackDown is boring show.
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Old 01-24-2013, 12:43 PM   #123 (permalink)
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The comedy.

There's no one better than The Rock, that's impossible because no one in the history of the business had the combination of his charisma, delivery, cleverness and presence to captivate every audience. He's in a world of his own, playing a completely different game than anybody else. Punk is not top 10, smooth delivery, nothing more than that. Why people think Rock consistently put Punk over in his promos? To sell him as a credible opponent against him, Rock is basically doing in 3 weeks what WWE couldn't do in 430 days. Everything Rock said to Punk so far was a soft version of the original point, all to protect Punk's image before the PPV because with his status and crowd control it can be a character killer to any performer today. That's how you promote and create interest, by building up your competition so when you overcome it, it would mean something in the eyes of the viewers. Rock's string of money promos leading to the Rumble did more than just selling the PPV. It sold Punk and brought back meaning to the title.
Truth hurts...

people creaming their pants over the god line dont realize that the only ones that buy it are the ''stream on the pc'' audience,that doesnt sell PPvs,putting your opponent over in the ring,mic and making the title mean everything to you does...
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No problem bro, just thought it can be used a lot, especially now when The GOAT is coming back to be the Shark of greatness in the middle of a sea of mediocrity :Rock
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Old 01-24-2013, 12:54 PM   #124 (permalink)
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Truth hurts...

people creaming their pants over the god line dont realize that the only ones that buy it are the ''stream on the pc'' audience,that doesnt sell PPvs,putting your opponent over in the ring,mic and making the title mean everything to you does...
How do you know that? Did you talk to millions of people and get their opinion on it? Or did you talk to your ass and come up with that assumption? Blind haters are the worst all bullshit no substance lol
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Old 01-24-2013, 01:01 PM   #125 (permalink)
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How do you know that? Did you talk to millions of people and get their opinion on it? Or did you talk to your ass and come up with that assumption. Blind haters are the worst all bullshit no substance lol
No need to just look at the PPv numbers

BTW: i dont hate punk.
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No problem bro, just thought it can be used a lot, especially now when The GOAT is coming back to be the Shark of greatness in the middle of a sea of mediocrity :Rock

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Old 01-24-2013, 03:25 PM   #126 (permalink)
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LOL, wiped the floor with him. That's impossible. Biased reporting.
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And of course, Punk doesn't get to counter back, refuting all of his refutes.

Punk is flat out better than Rock on the mic, there's no way around it, it just is. There's no scenario I could ever believe where Rock could actually beat someone of this calibur in a verbal fight. He hasn't even come close yet.
If Punk is so wonderful on the mic or in fact, that damn great, why is Rock having to put him over in nearly every single promo he has done thus far then? Rock never did that with Austin, HHH, Mankind, Taker, Big Show, Cena... the list goes on. The reason is simple. Punk has no credibility. Full Stop.

I know some of you will blame the creative writing and yes, it is shitty these days but fuck... you can only go so far into blaming that.

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Possibly, if they did it just like every good promo Punk has done against Rock so far. I didn't watch the Smackdown promo yet, but it better favor The Rock, otherwise it's a terrible, one-sided buildup to the Rumble that will either A: not be a satisfying win for Rock fans/people who don't like Punk, or B: Just make it look like WWE has forcefully put Punk over a legend to falsely increase his all time status, and only current Punk marks will like it.
This right here is why I'm hating this feud right now. Rock trying to make Punk as a threat is just pathetic. Not his fault though.
Punk has ZERO credibility whatsoever and Rock is forced to build Punk as the greatest thing to come out of wrestling. Period.
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Old 01-24-2013, 06:45 PM   #127 (permalink)
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No need to just look at the PPv numbers
What PPV numbers? The only time he's said that line to build up a PPV was for... I mean IS for the Royal Rumble, which hasn't happened yet. Granted you're right that making your opponent seem as big a deal as possible is the best way to sell a PPV. Rock's doing this, and Punk did it for Rock on Raw as well. It's just neither guy is gonna put the other over himself, which makes sense, and is why posts like TheFlBOB's in this thread are stupid. This feud isn't one-sided. Rock isn't putting Punk over on the mic because he has no credibility. He's doing it because that's what sells the PPV.

And to counter a point TheF1BOB brought up, mentioning how Rock didn't have to put over guys like Austin, HHH, Mankind, Taker, Big Show, Cena, etc., that's true. He didn't. It's a moot point though because he doesn't have to do it for Punk. However the difference is for all of those guys except Cena, it was a different Rock they were facing that made his name off of grinding his opponents into dust verbally in hilarious fashion. And for Cena, while I can't say for certain, I don't recall Rock ever ignoring Cena's talent, committment, and (kayfabe) resilience, but spent most of the time countering Cena and making jokes that didn't mean anything aside from a quick laugh. Worst thing I can remember from Rock against Cena was when he was talking to that kid (who was imitating Cena) and said "You took the ball and you ran with it! You didn't run really far, but you ran your little legs off!" or something like that.

But yeah, this isn't some one-sided build, Punk did have credibility even before The Rock opened his mouth despite what haters like to believe, and they're building this up perfectly.
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Old 01-24-2013, 07:22 PM   #128 (permalink)
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you don't compare punk who is in his prime ,with Rock who is not in his prime.
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Old 01-24-2013, 09:36 PM   #129 (permalink)
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Punk's promos stand up on their own. No reaction required. You know that wrestling promos exist beyond two guys arguing in the ring at the same time, right?



Except The Rock, I guess.
Punk hasn't looked good on the mic to me, he's just looked protected while Rock's looked censored and forced to put Punk over rather than hurt his image any. Got to insult Rock (which realistically would've gotten him buried or stole on), yet Rock's only reply was to put him over as a force? You can't seriously tell me that isn't script protection.

Stupid booking, not entertaining at all. Just a forced attempt to put Punk over. It can easily been seen through. Rock/Cena was a much better fued because it was meant to be entertaining, and Cena wasn't script protected.

And no, not "except The Rock". I never excluded him from benefitting from that at times in the past. However, he hasn't had any protection in this fued or the Cena fued.
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Punk hasn't looked good on the mic to me, he's just looked protected while Rock's looked censored and forced to put Punk over rather than hurt his image any. Got to insult Rock (which realistically would've gotten him buried or stole on), yet Rock's only reply was to put him over as a force? You can't seriously tell me that isn't script protection.

Stupid booking, not entertaining at all. Just a forced attempt to put Punk over. It can easily been seen through. Rock/Cena was a much better fued because it was meant to be entertaining, and Cena wasn't script protected.

And no, not "except The Rock". I never excluded him from benefitting from that at times in the past. However, he hasn't had any protection in this fued or the Cena fued.
And that is the same reason why Punk didn't get put over in his feud with Jericho. The WWE tried to protect Punk and worried about continuing his title reign instead of having Jericho beat him as soon as he came back. If Jericho had beaten Punk immediately and then Punk won the title back at Wrestlemania, after earning his Best in the World title, then he would've been a bigger star than he is now. Every time they coddle these PG Era stars and water down the legends, to feign the illusion of equality, those PG stars end up taking a hit in popularity.
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