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Old 01-13-2013, 08:59 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Much rather Sheamus stay a face. He seems so natural in that role.
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Old 01-13-2013, 09:45 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I totally agree with this thread. Everyone is expecting Orton to turn & that kinda takes away its impact when it happens. Also, even though most of you think Orton is completely stale, IMO he can still be revived without a heel turn if they just give him some of that tweener-like edge he had in 2010, put him in a proper feud & bring back the punt kick. After all, his character has hardly changed since 2009, he's still (kayfabe) a vicious psycho asshole who has never smiled, high-fived fans or kissed babies.

Sheamus, on the other hand, CANT be given any edge, because his character is a corny nice guy who always smiles and kisses babies no matter what. They could have kept him badass at the start of his face run, but now it would basically amount to a heel turn if he stopped smiling and cracking corny jokes.

I know I'll get a whole lotta heat for this, but Sheamus is the one who needs the heel turn most. He's gone soft beyond repair. Back in 2009/10, he was a great heel. His brutality was almost unparalled, remember how he killed Jamie Noble?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzfQblbGqNk

At the same time as being a monster, he was also an asshole who always took the easy route out yet gloated about how dominant he was.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxoyA12rDtc

Sure, he was booked like shit , but his character was 100 times more enjoyable, and the only reason I like him right now is because of what he was back then. Indeed, it would be great to see him go back to that monster/jerk combination instead of turning Orton heel without changing his character much.

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Sheamus is a natural face.
Sheamus is anything but a natural face. It's simply not believable that a huge, scary man like him would go around smiling, kissing babies and cracking Cena-esque jokes. Ever since he turned face, his promos have all been unnatural and forced. When he was a heel, he was actually decent on the mic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAt7f5bJpe0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKH-g4HeVSo

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Sheamus is better as face, but someday they decided him to be Cena's SD with the comedic promos but they put Sheamus on another level of corniness.
^This, basically. I don't agree that he's better as a face, but the rest is exactly what I'm talking about. He was still badass when they first turned him face and had him feud with Mark Henry, but they completely ruined him by putting a big ol' smile on his face 24/7.
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Old 01-13-2013, 09:48 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I like Sheamus on both ends. But the guy is 100 % pure baby face material.
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Personally, I don`t like him. He sucks as a face, either as a heel. He is above decent in the ring, so he should stay face, be in midcard and putover midcard heels. But.. Well.. , Vince loves huge brainless guys without mic skills. Atleast he is better in the ring than most of workhorses in WWE. He should be enchancement talent.

Noone in the roster today could stand with the Rock in the same ring except for maybe, MAYBE CM Punk. Sheamus will never be a top star, he just does not have it, atleast he is more passionate than Kofi " Happy Midcarder" Kingston. I hate then WWE pushes guys like ADR or Sheamus, they do not deserve pushes, WWE made them, they did not do anything to impress audience and putover themselves like Zack Ryder, CM Punk, Ziggler and many other did.

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Old 01-13-2013, 10:06 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Nah. He's decent as a heel, but he found his niche as a face IMO.
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His brutality was almost unparalled, remember how he killed Jamie Noble?
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Oh wow. That genuinely made me feel bad for Noble. Wow.
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I'm not saying this will happen as I don't think WWE will be creative enough to try. But what if this whole Orton turning heel rumor is wrong and we get swerved with a Sheamus turn instead? It's gonna be next to impossible to make Orton get boo'd anyways much less over Sheamus and maybe they realize this. Sheamus character has kinda been botched anyways as well. It would be cool if Sheamus said he was tired of being nice and smiling for these idiots, and he became this barbaric brute and top heel for Smackdown. This is what I would like to see for this fued, but we probably will get a cowardly Orton if they want him to be heel.


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Yeah, they are not creative enough because they wouldn't turn someone so over with the crowd and who's the #2 babyface in the company heel. Yeah, booking wise he's ahead of Orton.
You can still cheer him as a face. You are probably an advocate of the it's 'cool' cheer the heels and boo the faces concept.
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...Everyone is expecting Orton to turn & that kinda takes away its impact when it happens....
I don't buy this at all. Just because something is predictable, that doesn't mean it's less impactful. If anything, it could (or should) make the turn even MORE impactful.

Batista's face turn in early 2005 is the perfect example. For a heel turn, look at Jericho in 2008, CM Punk in 2009. Everyone knew they would end up turning heel, and it made for entertaining television.
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I don't buy this at all. Just because something is predictable, that doesn't mean it's less impactful. If anything, it could (or should) make the turn even MORE impactful.

Batista's face turn in early 2005 is the perfect example. For a heel turn, look at Jericho in 2008, CM Punk in 2009. Everyone knew they would end up turning heel, and it made for entertaining television.
Maybe I should rephrase that. What I meant to say was that IMO it would make for a great swerve if creative goes against all our predictions and turns Sheamus instead.

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Oh wow. That genuinely made me feel bad for Noble. Wow.
It was one of the most brutal moments of the PG Era, which is another reason why THAT Sheamus should be brought back.
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Yeah, they are not creative enough because they wouldn't turn someone so over with the crowd and who's the #2 babyface in the company heel. Yeah, booking wise he's ahead of Orton.
You can still cheer him as a face. You are probably an advocate of the it's 'cool' cheer the heels and boo the faces concept.
No I'm not, I just like any type of character when they are utilized correctly whether it's heel or face. I actually like Sheamus and think he should be much better in his face role than he is if they didn't make him Cena 2.0. Like someone else stated when he first turned face and fueded with Mark Henry that was perfect and how he should be booked. Sheamus can be a brute heel and everyone would boo because he was attacking Orton. I'd make him the top heel and be booked stronger and more dominant than his original run, then eventually turn him back face and keep his edge.

And as far your sarcastic comment about them not being creative enough because they won't turn somebody so over with the crowd.......What would they be doing by turning Orton? Sheamus may be booked as the #2 face, but like it or not Orton is the most consistently over guy in the company, which was the point of my thread. I find it hard to believe that Sheamus would get cheered over Orton especially when it's in Ortons character to RKO faces and be out for himself. So I believe a drastic change into a cowardly heel is the only way if would work at this moment. It won't be the heel Orton that everyone likes him as.


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