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Old 05-12-2013, 06:44 AM   #51 (permalink)
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That's what UPPERmid carders do.
Agreed.

I don't know what people expect who are complaining.

Do they want ALL the mid carders to beat him?
Or do they want them to just beat each other and never move anywhere.

People really will complain about anything.
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Old 05-12-2013, 07:30 AM   #52 (permalink)
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It's like you guys have never seen a main eventer who's not currently being pushed.
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Old 05-12-2013, 07:42 AM   #53 (permalink)
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A mid carder defeating another mid carder whats wrong with that?
Its everything that is wrong with wrestling today the reason you need jobber matches back in WWE & TNA..

Ziggle would be better beating up a jobber every week for 3 mins and cutting a promo after the match. No now we have Ziggler on this win one match ,then lost three matches shit
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Its everything that is wrong with wrestling today the reason you need jobber matches back in WWE & TNA..

Ziggle would be better beating up a jobber every week for 3 mins and cutting a promo after the match. No now we have Ziggler on this win one match ,then lost three matches shit
We seriously don't need jobber matches. They are so boring and don't help stars get over.

The WWE works that if someone is good enough they WILL get over through competitive matches. You don't want 2 minute matches every week.

If someone is good enough, WWE will notice and let them win the big matches. Ziggler is never going to be THE guy, he's going to be a guy who is over with the crowd, is a great wrestler and entertainer. He will beat big guys every now and then, or cheat to win. That is Dolph Ziggler. You have to remember that for him to win, someone else has to lose. It comes around and goes around.
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Old 05-12-2013, 10:58 AM   #55 (permalink)
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We seriously don't need jobber matches. They are so boring and don't help stars get over..
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Old 05-12-2013, 11:05 AM   #56 (permalink)
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Explain?

You think people like Cena, Orton, Brock got where they are through beating jobbers every week?
No. They beat established starss got over with the fans and had lenghty matches.

You can have 1 / 2 jobber matches to start your career but that's it, we dont need to see them every week.

Look at the rave reviews Rhodes got from wrestling Orton last week on RAW. Imagine if Rhodes would have come out and beat Jey Uso. He would have got no where.
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Explain?

You think people like Cena, Orton, Brock got where they are through beating jobbers every week?
No. They beat established starss got over with the fans and had lenghty matches.

You can have 1 / 2 jobber matches to start your career but that's it, we dont need to see them every week.

Look at the rave reviews Rhodes got from wrestling Orton last week on RAW. Imagine if Rhodes would have come out and beat Jey Uso. He would have got no where.
When jobbers are built as threats and stars beat them? Yes it gets people over
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When you don't bring up a roster of youngbloods to take pins, when the midcard is so devoid of all compelling face talent, this happens. Upper midcarder faces, and yes, Orton is definitively one now, are forced to repeatedly defeat heel midcarders clean and this devalues the entire enterprise. Men like Santino, Kingston, Ryder and the like are rarely seen as genuine opposition to a heel champ and therefore, in comes a guy like Orton or Sheamus or ADR to beat 'em a half dozen times clean. Then, the heel has been so devalued that he is ready to lose to a guy like Kingston or R-Truth and you buy it, but all you did is cut the throat of your midcard heel champs and took away all meaning that somebody like Kingston getting a midcard belt should have.

Years worth of this counterintuitive booking has ruined the midcard heels like Barrett, Rhodes, Sandow and Ziggler and it has failed to get any midcard faces over and furthermore, has obliterated the value of any undercard and midcard championships.
Take Kingston. He's a 3 time Tag Champ, 3 time U.S. champ and a 4 time and current Intercontinental Champ and it doesn't mean a thing! He's not one scintilla more over on his 10th belt than he was on his say, 6th. Quick, what was Kingston's 6th title reign and no internet cheating! Can't do it, can you? Fuck me running, nobody can and that is the point.

Number of belts for Jake The Snake Roberts: ZERO
Number for Kingston: 10

Will people remember Kingston 20 years after he retires? Fuck no!
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Old 05-12-2013, 09:19 PM   #59 (permalink)
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That's when his contract is up and renewal just won't happen
why not? I think Randy is one of the most talented superstar in WWE. fans love him. if he gets big push, he should be able to sell WWE.
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Old 05-12-2013, 09:28 PM   #60 (permalink)
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Its everything that is wrong with wrestling today the reason you need jobber matches back in WWE & TNA..

Ziggle would be better beating up a jobber every week for 3 mins and cutting a promo after the match. No now we have Ziggler on this win one match ,then lost three matches shit
WWE isn't a wrestling company anymore. It's an entertainment company that hired hollywood reject writer's. If the booking isn't on point wrestlers can't grow. The past few weeks he's been getting air and mic time. So might be hope yet for the viper.
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