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Old 09-30-2013, 03:59 PM   #111 (permalink)
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Lets see what the match card is people before we argue about what match will go on last

and TBH the only way I see Punk closing WM30 is if Austin comes back for 1 more match or the WWE title is a triple threat Cena vs Orton vs Punk
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Old 09-30-2013, 04:00 PM   #112 (permalink)
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I rather they do Vince w/Austin vs Hunter w/Stephanie (rumor is that is one of their ideas) than Cena/Hunter again. Vince in ring last year with Punk and took a nasty F5 by Brock with a legit bad hip, he is crazy enough to do it one last time and he will survive 15-20 minutes with Hunter (which would likely be less violent than their 1999 Armageddon Ecounter).
you have these 2 mixed up. Its Austin with Vince vs HHH
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Bryan vs. Punk in the main event of Mania would be a great idea. WWE doesn't sell Mania on one match, it's sold on a supercard of top matches that are PPV closers in their own right.

For example, Taker vs. Punk wasn't the main event however it was sold as a top featured match and there are some people that bought WM 29 to see THAT match, not Rock vs. Cena II or HHH vs. Lesnar II. Therefore, a Bryan vs. Punk match, say with the WWE title, will be pushed as a featured match, however we won't know it's the closer until the night of the event. The WWE will have already collected the cash by then and us tuning out or not becomes irrelevant at that point.

Cena will be front and center on posters and will have a big Mania match (and maybe moment). So will Undertaker, and likely HHH and/or Lesnar, and possibly Rock, but they do not need to be in the last match.
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The way I see it is Mania 30 is Punks final and/or last chance to close the show at Wrestlemania.

Bryan and Punk are easily the 2 most over superstars on the roster with ease. The pops they have been getting weekly for months is out of this world. These 2 are no longer mid carders, Punk is a former champion of 434 straight days while Bryan is a 2 time champion who has been the focal point of Raw. The quality of there match would be out of this world and wouldn't disappoint. It just depends what storyline they were given for the feud. The match doesn't have enough star power to close the 30th anniversary of the biggest PPV on the calendar, to some people like myself it would honestly be a dream match at a dream event, but the star power would definetely lower the chances of this happening.

But in saying that no one deserves that mainevent spot more then Punk and Bryan is slowly getting there.
Bryan's maybe huge, but Punks aren't out of anywhere.

And you don't decide who deserves what, don't even know why people say stuff like this.
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According to you? Don't even know why people say stuff like this.
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you have these 2 mixed up. Its Austin with Vince vs HHH
nope. there is talk of doing of what I said also .

we won't know anything till we know Rock & Austin are out for sure or have agreed . When/If that happens its most like between Vince, Cena, or Bryan(doubtful) against Hunter. So for now everything is here say.

November/December when we will probably get more definitive mania plans
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Taker/Brock is absolutely bigger than almost anything they could do with Cena/HHH unless it was something where the actual fate of the company was on the line (as in if HHH wins, it dies, Cena wins, it lives) or something crazy like that, which they wouldn't do anyway as it would make no sense. You're putting too much stock into the McMahons and HHH and Cena (which I'm not surprised by, but I suppose it does feed into your delusion of the situation).

As for the Taker/Punk and Brock/HHH, I've already explained that time and time again to the point I don't care anymore. But to put it simply, it's close, and I have no problem with anyone saying Brock/HHH was bigger, and I don't entirely disagree with it, but at the same time I just don't know. Taker's streak>HHH's career, but at the same time Brock>>>>>Punk, but the Taker/Punk storyline had more of a personal feel to it due to real life events, but Brock/HHH hadpersonal issues itself with what happened with Vince. Take that as you will, but it's not as clear cut as some would make it seem.
You don't think they are going to do 'if X happens WWE dies/lives' in this match? Come on. Your entire post is biased bullshit as usual quite frankly. Remove yourself from the situation if it's possible and answer honestly. The 30th Wrestlemania. The McMahon's will have been on TV for almost a year by that point. They are engaged in a battle for power. Triple H and John Cena are involved. THEY (McMahon's) are booking the show. Why the hell wouldn't I or anybody else NOT put stock into this feud if it happens? You're foolish, blind and/or stupid if you don't. And I'm not saying Taker/Brock isn't a big match. Duh, it's a pretty huge match. But between the 2 I don't think it's a question which one they'll give top billing to. If they both happen and I'm wrong come tell me I told you so in a couple of months but I don't think I will be.

It doesn't matter what you have a problem with lol. Who cares what you have a problem with. You're saying that Taker/Brock is a bigger match than HHH/Cena just because it's Taker and Brock. That's fine. Apply the same logic to HHH/Brock and Taker/Punk and what's the logical conclusion? It sure as hell isn't that Taker/Punk is the bigger match. It is clear cut and the only people arguing otherwise are who? Surprise, surprise, delusional Punk marks twisting things to fit their perfect little biased world as usual.

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Not entirely true.

January Royal Rumble Punk beats Rock, match restarted Rock beats Punk. Win/Loss: 1-1
February Elimination Chamber Rock beats Punk. Win/Loss: 1-2
April WrestleMania Undertaker defeated CM Punk Win/Loss: 1-3
May Extreme Rules No-Show. On break. Win/Loss: Neither
June Payback Punk beat Jericho Win/Loss: 2-3
July Money in the Bank Randy Orton won MITB, Punk not pinned or submitted Win/Loss: 2-4
August SummerSlam Lesnar beats Punk Win/Loss: 2-5
September Night of Champions Punk beats Axel, Heyman beats Punk via Ryback Win/Loss: 3-6

3-6 Win/Loss rate. Throw in all Punk's wins on RAW and he's doing just fine this year.
I'm only talking about his big matches. Every high profile match he's had he has lost. To Rock twice, to Cena, to Taker and then Lesnar. Sure it's great that he gets to be in these programs and share the ring with the elite guys but at the same time, that many big losses in a row is bound to hinder momentum.
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According to you? Don't even know why people say stuff like this.


OK, CM Punk/Taker was the draw of Mania.
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OK, CM Punk/Taker was the draw of Mania.
I can honestly say it was the top draw for me personally. The post said some, not all. And how the fuck would you know?
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^^^^^ Everybody has that one match that they prefer to the others and that draws them in. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that. The idiocy comes when people use that subjective opinion in objective discussions and start proclaiming said match as the biggest on the card because of what it means to them.

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OK, CM Punk/Taker was the draw of Mania.
You're telling me Sandrone doesn't have you convinced after that compelling 'Taker and Punk had a personal feel to it after real life events' argument? You're so silly. Taker/Punk was the obvious true main event of Mania 29. Taker & Punk are bigger draws than Rock, Lesnar, HHH & Cena combined. Everybody knows that....everybody except rational, logical thinkers of course.
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