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Old 07-27-2013, 05:57 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Ziggler vs. Langston...Makes No Sense!

Just a made a thread in The SD! section w/ the same title (Rhodes vs. Sandow) and talked about how the feud made no sense. It's not the only one either.

Everything from Money in the Bank from the next night on Raw was great IMO. AJ cost Ziggler, Ziggler dumped AJ, AJ and Big E struck back. But what has happened since. Dolph has come to the ring all smiley and cracking jokes. So you just got your ass royally handed to you by a monster of man and you come out like this? Ok, yeah, that makes sense (insert sarcasm).

Why is the Punk vs. Lesnar story so great. It's not just the guys involved, it's the story. Punk was betrayed by his best friend and has gotten his ass kicked by Lesnar twice. Did Punk come out after those attacks w/ a smile on his face making jokes. To quote Daniel Bryan: NO! He came out and cut intense promos on how he would get his revenge on Heyman and Lesnar. It's such simple booking it's great. You make Heyman and Brock look dominant, it makes more and more people want to tune into Summerslam and watch Punk get his revenge.

But this feud is completely ass-backwards. Did anyone see the Ziggler/AJ/Big E segment from SD!. AJ's crying in the ring w/ Big E trying to console her and Ziggler is completely running her down. Seriously, if a casual fan or someone who doesn't even watch the show had turned in at that moment, they would think Ziggler is the heel and AJ and Big E are faces.

It makes no sense. You want your babyfaces to built up as sympathetic figures so the audience will cheer for them and boo the heel. After that scene, I would rather cheer for AJ and Big E. Again makes no sense and they've taken this story in a terrible direction.

What do you think?
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Default Re: Ziggler vs. Langston...Makes No Sense!

Big E is AJs (friendzoned) friend. Ziggler broke her heart and he's angry about it. Makes a lot of sense
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Big E is AJs (friendzoned) friend. Ziggler broke her heart and he's angry about it. Makes a lot of sense
Yeah, and that would make perfect sense if Dolph was the heel and Big E was the face. But they're not. Dolph is coming off as the douchebag ex boyfriend and Big E is coming off as the sympathetic figure. How in the hell does that make sense?
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Default Re: Ziggler vs. Langston...Makes No Sense!

It makes perfect sense.

AJ costs Dolph Title - Dolph dumps AJ - Big E is AJ's friend and attacks Dolph on her command - Dolph antagonizes them and attacks Big E when his guards down to further the mind games.

It's refreshing to see a babyface actually using common sense and intelligence, why should Ziggler just go tearing at Big E? He knows he'd probably get his ass kicked.

Not all babyfaces have to be brave and stupid like Cena and Sheamus.
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Default Re: Ziggler vs. Langston...Makes No Sense!

That segment was bad, but it makes sense dude. It was a cringe worthy segment. You want to cheer AJ knowing her overreactive, crazy history? Come on now. A Casual who tuned in having no clue about anything might think that, but it makes sense to everyone else who's watched the last month

You make no sense. AJ cost him a world title and then got Big E to attack him because she's bitter over a break up. Shes a crazy bitch and took his wallet with all his shit. How in the world do you see Ziggler as the heel
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I hate the whole love triangle/relationship story's they do. Stephanie Machmahon is the ONLY diva in the last 30 years to have a good love triangle/relationship storyline, in my opinion of course. Diva's just ruin superstars momentum with stupid storylines. Dolph should be getting pushed to main event status and Big E should be getting shots at midcard titles.

I am too old to get all horny when I see a Diva on TV. I am not a teenager anymore. Diva's can be ok when they are not involved with Male superstars. Let them have Diva v Diva matches and let them stay away from the males or they risk burying them.
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Default Re: Ziggler vs. Langston...Makes No Sense!

I think I would enjoy taking AJ Lee to pound town. The part I would worry about is when it gets weird and she throws on a Boba Fett costume and wants to incorporate toy lightsabers into the love making.

I bet she is the kind of girl who would like getting force choked though.
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I used to like Ziggler long time ago but his current character is unlikable.

especially his segment with AJ, Big E and Kaitlyn on SmackDown.
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I totally forgot about Kaitlyn and then she just goes out and attacks AJ. That's not really a face move.
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Default Re: Ziggler vs. Langston...Makes No Sense!

There are other ways to book babyfaces other than to make the audience sympathetic towards them. I for one like the fact that Ziggler is not some typical, cooker cutter, boring babyface and he can still be a little arrogant, smug and big headed while still remaining to be a decent babyface that the crowd can get behind. Stone Cold didn't act like a face, he gave everyone in sight a Stone Cold Stunner no matter if they were face or heel.

The feud makes perfect sense btw, Big E is AJ's most trusted friend, Dolph broke her heart so Big E is getting revenge for his best friend by attacking Ziggler, how does this not make sense?
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