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The Shield Discussion Thread II

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The first Shield Discussion Thread reached over 9,000 posts and featured a poll that received close to 1300 votes which is one of the most impressive stats I have seen on this forum. Now, let us continue...

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Edit from Ambrose/Kane match. Thought Kane came out looking like a beast in this one, the spots where he tossed Reigns over the announce table and big booted Rollins off the apron were sick (though those can be credited to great bumping/selling). Nice TV match, loved Ambrose getting the win and Kane took that finisher quite well. The post match beat down was also really well done with Kane fighting back more than most, only to be stopped by a spear from Reigns.
 
#1,174 ·
taken from the layfield report:

"Dean Ambrose will become the top heel in WWE.

There’s nothing like a big, bold statement to open a column, right? You’re right, of course and believe me; I don’t make these grand declarations very often. Try never.

But facts are facts. And judging from the facts we have in front of us, I feel more than comfortable with my opening line.

From the moment The Shield debuted in WWE, they have been the company’s most dominant force. Week in and week out they level one Superstar after another. Overwhelming their victim with their numbers, the trio of Ambrose, Seth Rollins and Roman Reigns has been unstoppable.

John Cena, Randy Orton, Ryback, Sheamus, even The Rock and The Undertaker, have all felt the wrath of WWE’s gang of thugs. But make no mistake about it, The Shield are not your typical heel stable with dreams of avarice and blinding ambition.

The driving ideology behind The Shield is their warped definition of justice. To them, no one is above judgment and everyone is a potential offender. To be in their crosshairs is the quintessential example of being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

The psychology of the group has only been magnified by their work in the ring as all three men have shown a great ability to completely embrace their characters in every way. There has not been one moment that I have seen in which there has been a hesitation, or a misstep. From the opening bell to the ending bell, The Shield is fully in the moment, totally on their game.

But as good as The Shield are collectively, Dean Ambrose has been the clear standout and as such has been featured in singles matches. Perhaps this is because the company knows that many fans respect him from his days on the independent circuit and in NXT. He generated a buzz then and now we are seeing the payoff.

But more importantly, perhaps Ambrose is being spotlighted because WWE recognizes his ability. They see something in him, a quality that only those who are truly very talented, possess.

Because when Dean Ambrose wrestles, you are compelled to watch him. His timing, his pacing, the way he carries himself in the ring and the way he sells his opponents’ moves, automatically command respect. And when Ambrose speaks, you cannot help but listen. He draws you in and makes you believe.

He makes you believe that he believes. Dean Ambrose does not appear to be someone who is reciting memorized lines or trying to stick to an overall outline of bullet points handed to him before the camera rolls. He is not playing a character. He is the character.

And that is why he will become WWE’s top heel. Not today. And probably not tomorrow. But, it will happen.

Much like Roddy Piper, Jake the Snake Roberts and Arn Anderson, there is simply nothing phony about Dean Ambrose. When he speaks, he is in the moment. He is the real deal. And much like the three legends I just mentioned, there is nothing particularly likeable about his heel personality.

Ambrose is a straight up heel. He is not funny, he is ruthless. He is not bold, he is cunning. At the end of the day, fans hate him and will hate him even more in the future because Dean is doing his job.

And he is very good at it.

For my money, CM Punk is by far the best heel that WWE has seen in quite some time. As entertaining as he is when he runs babyface and despite how much his talent endears him to fans now, the fact is that Punk will always find a way to look like the biggest jerk in the building. He will find a way to be hated. And no one does it any better.

But I believe that one day we will say the same of Dean. I believe that the time may come that CM Punk may actually be forced to turn face because WWE will be ruled by the devilish Loki-esque heel that is Dean Ambrose. Punk may have just found a rival who can beat him at his own game.

Dean Ambrose will become the top heel in WWE. And that’s a fact."
 
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Its funny how some people are so busy pointing at the negatives that they fail to notice how nicely the WWE have booked the Shield so far. Imo, this is the best stable since Evolution. They started with three guys, out of which Ambrose and Seth were quite well known amongst the smarks. Reigns, well, not so much. Reigns and Rollins weren't really known for their mic skills and Dean was the only one amongst the three who was a total package. But they still managed to portray those three individuals as equal threats, and they were successful at it. In reality, they're just three rookies who've been here since November. But every time their theme hits, everyone knows that shit is about to get serious. They look like a legit threat now. They didn't really wrestle on free TV until the past few weeks and just interrupted segments and matches, which is why each of their matches on free TV had a big match feel to it. They even had them do those unique styled promos, which they apparently cut from unknown locations, which added to the stable's mystique. They had them go over big names like Ryback, Sheamus, Randy Orton, Big Show, Chris Jericho, Daniel Bryan, Kane, John Cena, The Rock and The Undertaker. JOHN CENA, THE ROCK and FUCKING UNDERTAKER! The fact that CM Punk didn't get a clean pin on John Cena but Roman Reigns did speaks something. We never get to see anything like this every third year, so I guess we're witnessing history. If they don't fuck this angle up by doing something silly like revealing Randy Orton to be their leader or something as stupid as that, then this stable will definitely go down in history as one of the best.

It was quite obvious from those reports which came out before Dean's debut that Hunter was high on him. Now that all three of them look intimidating and threatening, they're slowly pushing Dean as an individual. They always had him do the talking as he's clearly a better talker than the other two, so he kinda stood out. Although they don't really have a leader of any sort and are just three equals, you know that Dean Ambrose is something. He does the talking for his team, he picked the win for his team at Wrestlemania and now, he's wrestling the likes of Kane and the Undertaker. That's huge. Now suppose they debuted Ambrose as an individual and not as a part of a stable. Do you think he would've been where he is now? Nah. It took a guy like CM Punk, a man who had perfected his craft by wrestling all over the world even before getting into the WWE, almost 5 years to climb to the top of the mountain. And I guess Dean's story would've pretty much been the same. The Shield's debut was impactful, it was something which kinda changed the landscape of the WWE. Do you think Dean would've made the same amount of impact if he debuted as a singles wrestler? Not really. He would've had to go through all the problems that Punk went through, like being criticized for not being all jacked up, maybe he would've been overshadowed by all those huge feuds on the Road to Wrestlemania and maybe he wouldn't have made it so huge so quick.

Just a thought that crossed my mind, some real nice decisions by Hunter and co there. :HHH2
 
#618 ·
Its funny how some people are so busy pointing at the negatives that they failed to notice how nicely the WWE have booked the Shield so far. Imo, this is the best stable since Evolution. They started with three guys, out of which Ambrose and Seth were quite well known amongst the smarks. Reigns, well, not so much. Reigns and Rollins weren't really known for their mic skills and Dean was the only one amongst the three who was a total package. But they still managed to portray those three individuals as equal threats, and they were successful at it. In reality, they're just three rookies who've been here since November. But every time their theme hits, everyone knows that shit is about to get serious. They look like a legit threat now. They didn't really wrestle on free TV until the past few weeks and just interrupted matches, which is why each of their matches on free TV had a big match feel to it. They even had them do those unique styled promos, which they apparently cut from unknown locations, it adds to the stable's mystique. They had them go over big names like Ryback, Sheamus, Randy Orton, Big Show, Chris Jericho, Daniel Bryan, Kane, John Cena, The Rock and The Undertaker. JOHN CENA, THE ROCK and FUCKING UNDERTAKER! The fact that CM Punk didn't get a clean pin on John Cena but Roman Reigns did speaks something. We never get to see anything like this every third year, guess we're witnessing history. If they don't fuck this angle up by doing something silly like revealing Randy Orton to be their leader or something as stupid as that, then this stable will definitely go down in history as one of the best.

It was quite obvious from those reports which came out before Dean's debut that Hunter was high on him. Now that all three of them look intimidating and threatening, they're slowly pushing Dean as an individual. They always had him do the talking as he's clearly a better talker than the other two, so he kinda stood out. Although they don't really have a leader of any sort and are just three equals, you know that Dean Ambrose is something. He does the talking for his team, he picked the win for his team at Wrestlemania and now, he's wrestling the likes of Kane and the Undertaker. That's huge. Now suppose they debuted Ambrose as an individual and not as a part of a stable. Do you think he would've been where he is now? Nah. It took a guy like CM Punk, a man who had perfected his craft by wrestling all over the world even before getting into the WWE, almost 5 years to climb to the top of the mountain. And I guess Dean's story would've pretty much been the same. The Shield's debut was impactful, it was something which kinda changed the landscape of the WWE. Do you think Dean would've made the same amount of impact if he debuted as a singles wrestler? Not really. He would've had to go through all the problems that Punk went through, like being criticized for not being all jacked up, maybe he would've been overshadowed by all those huge feuds on the Road to Wrestlemania and maybe he wouldn't have made it so huge so quick.

Just a thought that crossed my mind, some real nice decisions by Hunter and co there. :HHH2
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Very well said. I especially agree that debuting Ambrose with the group was an excellent choice. He's always had the talent to make it to the top, but it would have taken him much longer to do it on his own. The group dynamic is really something and I'm also impressed by how they are being booked.
 
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SO GUYS, FUCK HEIGHT, FUCK "New Members!", FUCK STALE, FUCK "Who's gonna be the breakout star" and most importantly, FUCK NITPICKING!!!

Because TONIGHT, when they fucking run and steal the show, every person on earth will explode on their seats because they can't take the Brightness of The Shield, when they proudly holding 3 belts up in the air.

So... the only question you should have in your mind now is "Do I have sunglasses at home?" :cool2
And if you don't, do not stare into the sun for too long!!!

CAN'T WAIT!!!! :mark: :mark: :mark:
 
#2,659 ·
Let me just contribute to the sexual objectification in this thread:



But yeah, I think it'd be difficult to take the titles off of any of them without it ending in their rupture. It seems silly for such a greatly hyped, strong team to just lose their titles and carry on as normal, especially considering there are literally no viable tag teams/midcarders who they could lose to and still come out losing reasonably strong. I'm down with guys like the Usos, Prime Time Players, and most of the other tag teams floating around right now, but they can't take the titles off of The Shield. I mean, come on. Unless some new tag team (Ascension? Wyatt Family? Cesaro and Ohno~?!) come in, and a decent singles guy rises up the ranks, they're probably going to have these titles for a looong time. Which isn't too bad I guess, it would be nice to see champions actually have regular defenses and come out of their reigns still looking like champs.

Is the general consensus that they're going to have their big break up on the next RTWM? Massive kudos to the WWE if they're able to keep it going that long.
 
#1,650 ·
Thinking about it now, the Shield won their matches clean :eek: I was originally hoping they'd help eachother but them winning their matches on their own Was awesome. Still can't get enough of That tag team finisher :mark:

If they were to toss a belt, plz the giant pennies. They must have been drunk when they designed that belt.
 
#2,289 ·
Do you think that it would be possible for Rollins to have a match with Sheamus on Smackdown as well? I would like to see The Shield have more singles matches. Truthfully, Sheamus and Orton should be a tag team so that the division could be built up properly, especially since they seem to be doing nothing at the moment. Since that isn't happening, I'll just have to settle for them in those great matches with The Shield.

Oh but who am I kidding, I just want to see Sheamus get destroyed again and The Shield are quite reliable when it comes to that.
 
#5,050 ·
Those arms. Those damn Crossfit arms. Those damn Crossfit butts. Damn Crossfit. Damn Shield. Damn raging lady boner. Stupid sexy Shield.

Man I miss that month when all Rollins did was post workout pictures. Sisters (and brothers), let us pray that a day will come when these three men will once again wrestle in trunks. In a Triple Threat match in the main event of Wrestlemania for the WWE Championship.

 
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Re: Should Dean Ambrose main event right now?

I think that Ambrose would definitely be able to perform well as a main-eventer and put on great matches with the likes of Cena, Punk and other WWE title contenders - but I'd rather that they take their time in building the guy up, letting him carry around a midcard strap for a while before pushing for the biggest prize. I don't have enough faith in WWE creative to usher in a good Ambrose top title reign yet - they'd probably think "what is there left to do with the Shield now they have all the titles?" and the break-up of the group would be precipitated. Perhaps he could embark upon an extended run with the US title, avoiding a loss for months on end, and end up prevailing in a champion vs champion bout (perhaps after winning MITB?) That way, with a slow but steady progression to the top, we hopefully build and build upon Ambrose's legitimacy and also extend the shelflife of the Shield.
 
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To be honest, having Ambrose being the one carrying singles competition right now is probably for the best. If Reigns was to be thrown out there he would be pretty badly exposed because he's still fairly green. He's doing a good job in the 3 man tag matches, but he isn't ready for regular singles competition. Rollins is great in the ring, but Ambrose captures the wild, relentless and pretty much crazy and irrational as fuck-ness of The Shield. Although I'm not sure about them putting a singles title on him right now. Unless it's incredibly well booked, it's going to end up feeling like Ambrose and his crew as opposed to The Shield being one complete unit. A Freebirds title reign would have been nice.
 
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