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Re: Ziggler losing CLEAN to Miz

Ziggler beat Miz three times in a row. And now he lost one match and the world ends for a few people? Yeah...
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post #72 of 105 (permalink) Old 03-06-2013, 12:42 PM
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I agree that sometimes what does stand out the most is his selling but he is also very athletic and has an attitude in the ring (showing off and stuff) that shows some personality (even if his not something very innovative).
His phenomenal selling has everything to do with how athletic he is though. Unlike a lot of today's wrestlers, Ziggler is a threat from anywhere in the ring because he is such a phenomenal athlete and is not limited to either power moves or aerial moves as he can perform a bit of both. Get this guy a mouthpiece (Ric Flair) that isn't an annoying shill like Vickie Guerrero and he could be big! He is by far more entertaining in the ring than the majority of the roster.

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Of the current crop of superstars Ziggler could be main-eventing. They teased it several times last year but for every step in the right direction they take two steps back. They don't fully commit to him, I don't know why. In truth they don't fully commit to anyone not named Cena but that is another story...
Totally agree.
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His phenomenal selling has everything to do with how athletic he is though. Unlike a lot of today's wrestlers, Ziggler is a threat from anywhere in the ring because he is such a phenomenal athlete and is not limited to either power moves or aerial moves as he can perform a bit of both. Get this guy a mouthpiece (Ric Flair) that isn't an annoying shill like Vickie Guerrero and he could be big! He is by far more entertaining in the ring than the majority of the roster.


Totally agree.
Only thing I don't agree is the mouthpiece. I think he can held his own on the mic. Sure his New Year's Promo was not good but up until that point he was on fire. Remember that segment in the locker room with AJ?

I'm on the minority that likes him in the mic. He just needs more time with it. You can't get better if you don't do it.

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Why do people act like Miz beating Dolph clean is blasphemy? I prefer Dolph to miz but Kayfabe wise Miz is more than credible enough to beat a guy like Dolph clean...you guys forget he had a decent length WWE title reign and main evented WM?
You must've forgotten he jobbed to Fucking Santino Marella less then a year ago.

Dolph Can't be taken seriously right now, he's gonna have a joke of a title reign like DB and Swagger, and go back to being a mid carder and jobbing to everyone.

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He needs a new name. Dolph Ziggler name doesn't scream champion. Gimmick is fine though IMO. He's awesome.
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Truth spoken.

Still don't understand the hype around him.
What's not to understand? Ziggler sells. The sign of a successful professional wrestler is if he or she can sell their opponent in the ring. Ziggler does that as good as Triple H used to. They just let trips win more lol
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What's not to understand? Ziggler sells. The sign of a successful professional wrestler is if he or she can sell their opponent in the ring. Ziggler does that as good as Triple H used to. They just let trips win more lol
Triple H had charisma. Ziggler doesn't.

Seriously, Ziggler is as generic of an FCW clone as one can get, and his hair doesn't change that. He has no sense of relevant presence. His mic skills are average too. You can't get over on in-ring ability alone.
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Re: Ziggler losing CLEAN to Miz

Otunga, Tatsu, Sandow, etc can't sell as awesome as Ziggler, so most likely that's why.

The bastard needs to cash soon, though, hopefully at Mania or the SmackDown after Mania.

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Re: Ziggler losing CLEAN to Miz

In my opinion, making him lose now to get him to look weak is a great way to add to the "surprise" effect for when he is goin to cash in his briefcase.
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In my opinion, making him lose now to get him to look weak is a great way to add to the "surprise" effect for when he is goin to cash in his briefcase.
But that has gone way overboard and it took away any credibility he gained by the end of last year.
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