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Old 03-06-2013, 04:56 AM   #51 (permalink)
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WWE knew they need to create new stars. they tried to push Ziggler, gave him opportunities to defeat Jericho, Cena and win at Survivor Series.

then they realized that he's good in the ring but sucks in everything else.

The Miz is a midcard on the push at this moment, he has a movie coming out today.

not only Ziggler, even Big Slow got his ass kicked as well.

Pretty much this. Ziggles is amazing in the ring, but lacks mic skills and charisma. Typically guys like him stay in the midcard putting Main Eventers over (Benoit), so at least he'll have a job. I doubt he's winning his MITB match. WWE has Ryback, Del Rio, Orton, and I hope Daniel Bryan to push first.
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Old 03-06-2013, 04:56 AM   #52 (permalink)
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I had some high hopes and expectations when Ziggles won the MiTB, thinking, finally, the guy will get a proper push. Now he has just become a jabroni, jobbing to the fucking Miz, I mean come on THE MIZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
the fact it is a clean loss...............................

It's how he is booked which I find the most annoying, hopefully post WM, Ziggles will get his time to shine.
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Miz is a former world champion. It's not like he's losing to Fandango here.
Holding the title ≠ credibility. That was an extremely dark period for the product resulting in one of the worst Mania main events ever.

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not only Ziggler, even Big Slow got his ass kicked as well.

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That was pathetic.

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Pretty much this. Ziggles is amazing in the ring, but lacks mic skills and charisma. Typically guys like him stay in the midcard putting Main Eventers over (Benoit), so at least he'll have a job. I doubt he's winning his MITB match. WWE has Ryback, Del Rio, Orton, and I hope Daniel Bryan to push first.
What? Ziggler may lack mic skills but he's not lagging in the charisma department. Dude presents himself very well as the cocky and handsome guy that most people hate.
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Are people really acting like he wasn't over when he was feuding with Cena? He had the crowd on his side on their match, and weeks prior.

He should've come out of that feud winning the WHC not being buried two Raws in a row by Cena. He was over but they didn't pull the trigger on him. They buried him.
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Old 03-06-2013, 05:51 AM   #55 (permalink)
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Why do people act like Miz beating Dolph clean is blasphemy? I prefer Dolph to miz but Kayfabe wise Miz is more than credible enough to beat a guy like Dolph clean...you guys forget he had a decent length WWE title reign and main evented WM?
This is exactly what I am wondering about but it’s the usual overreaction from the die hard Ziggler marks. I can see if it was someone like Yoshi Tatsu but losing to a former WWE Champion and headliner at WrestleMania? I don’t see the problem. Let’s all add into the fact that both stars are main event jobbers anyway.

Ziggler losing to The Miz should be the least of your concern. It’s Ziggler booking period as Mr. MITB should everyone be raging all over about and not the guy who is far more credible than Ziggler will ever be.

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Are people really acting like he wasn't over when he was feuding with Cena? He had the crowd on his side on their match, and weeks prior.

He should've come out of that feud winning the WHC not being buried two Raws in a row by Cena. He was over but they didn't pull the trigger on him. They buried him.
That's not really a true accomplishment, if Bin Laden was in the ring with Cena the crowd would be rooting for Osama.
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If Ziggler is compared to Billy Gunn, he's missing his Road Dogg.
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Randy Orton must be livid at this point. He efficiently puts over Ziggler (as well as others) and his super kick clean at survivor series(was it survivor series?) only for Cena to suck all the life of Zigglers push and now this recent losing streak. Truly baffling. He was actually coming across as quite a threat before all of that.
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Are people really acting like he wasn't over when he was feuding with Cena? He had the crowd on his side on their match, and weeks prior.

He should've come out of that feud winning the WHC not being buried two Raws in a row by Cena. He was over but they didn't pull the trigger on him. They buried him.
in fairness, it's not difficult to have the crowd on your side when you feud with Cena.

Ziggler has been booked like shit since he won the MITB. Vince uses that briefcase as an excuse to book guys like shit. His philosophy is "he'll be champ soon enough, we dont need to make him look strong"

The problem is, no one (myself included) is going to give half a fucking shit about Ziggler when he cashes in at Mania.
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in fairness, it's not difficult to have the crowd on your side when you feud with Cena.

Ziggler has been booked like shit since he won the MITB. Vince uses that briefcase as an excuse to book guys like shit. His philosophy is "he'll be champ soon enough, we dont need to make him look strong"

The problem is, no one (myself included) is going to give half a fucking shit about Ziggler when he cashes in at Mania.
I don't think he's going to win. ADR will beat Swagger, then Swagger will be suspended. After the match Ziggles will cash in and lose, leading to their feud (where Ziggles loses some more). I think they want ADR's face run to go as well as possible so he won't lose it for a midcard heel yet.
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in fairness, it's not difficult to have the crowd on your side when you feud with Cena.
We was also over when it was against Sheamus. Remember the King fail saying people were chanting Sheamus when they were chanting Ziggler?

Ziggler could be a great underdog face. But now is momentum is gone. They gave me the superkick and he barely won a match with that.
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