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Old 03-05-2013, 01:37 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Look at his help though.
Big E is a big looking dude and should be credible enough to help Ziggler with ease. And AJ did a fine job at TLC and Ziggler looked GREAT coming out of that match. AJ is also the most credible diva on the roster by far. I've said it before but I think if Ziggler and AJ have their titles they will probably be booked and look better.
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Old 03-05-2013, 01:39 PM   #42 (permalink)
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WWE knew they need to create new stars. they tried to push Ziggler, gave him opportunities to defeat Jericho, Cena and win at Survivor Series.

then they realized that he's good in the ring but sucks in everything else.
Ziggler definitely had a push, and he definitely missed a chance to get mad over with the audience.

For this, I blame Ziggler for not shooting on the mic, and I blame creative for not being more creative.

But things can turn on a dime in this industry. In 2011, Punk was about to walk out of WWE and into obscurity. Now he's just come off the longest title reign in recent memory and is set to face the Undertaker and his streak at Wrestlemania.

Ziggler's not buried yet. But he's getting close.

Ziggler needs to explode. And right now would be a good time to start.
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Old 03-06-2013, 02:09 AM   #43 (permalink)
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WWE knew they need to create new stars. they tried to push Ziggler, gave him opportunities to defeat Jericho, Cena and win at Survivor Series.
You´ve got to be kidding me. That wasn´t a push, that was ruining Ziggler while he had everyone´s attention, to make it perfectly clear that he will never get a real push.

Survivor Series was a completely fucked up match, and was changed several times. There was almost no build-up, and which little there was, was actually about the initial match of Punk vs. Foley. Was there even a promo between Foley and Ziggler?

Ziggler/Jericho was about "not winning the big one". Well, Ziggler lost the PPV match, and given his history up to that point, actually made himself look like the guy who couldn´t win the big one.

Then Ziggler is telling off AJ in the locker room, having a bathroom brawl with Cena, and the resolution is that he was just jealous, got covered in shit in the middle of the ring, and lost to Cena quick and clean after two interferences and hitting all of his finishers.

You don´t ruin someone´s credibility in a dark match, you do it when the world is watching.
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Default Re: Ziggler losing CLEAN to Miz

To be fair the WHC is equivalent to what the IC title used to be, so makes sense a former WWE Champion defeats the number 1 contender for the IC title.
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Old 03-06-2013, 02:47 AM   #45 (permalink)
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It's not a good look that the MITB briefcase holder is jobbing to guys who haven't been in the main event spot for a long time like The Miz. I really hope he has a successful cash in and holds the WHC legitimately.
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Old 03-06-2013, 03:13 AM   #46 (permalink)
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Don't worry boys, at the end of this dark tunnel, there will be golden riches.

And when that gold belt is around his waist, we will witness a reign of something special, something we've never witnessed before.
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Old 03-06-2013, 03:51 AM   #47 (permalink)
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You an idiot, son.
Why do you think people hate Cena? He never LOSES.
Undertaker? He always WINS.
The Shield? Currently undefeated.

Wrestling is all about win/loss. How can someone be a top tier chapmion if he always loses?
I legitimately at the ignorance contained in this post.

Win/loss plays an important role, but not as important as how you are booked to win or lose. What is so perturbing about Ziggler's loss to that douchebag Miz is that Big E even interfered and Dolph still lost, making him look super weak. You can be booked strong in a loss, much like most of Cena's losses which are indeed plentiful and not at all rare on television.
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Old 03-06-2013, 04:03 AM   #48 (permalink)
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Whoever booked him to lose to Miz needs to give their head a shake
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Old 03-06-2013, 04:36 AM   #49 (permalink)
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Default Re: Ziggler losing CLEAN to Miz

It made sense for the Miz to win, but as to why it was against Ziggler I don't know. I guess Ziggler is just getting the typical MITB booking and will continue to lose every week and then out of no where cash in and win.
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Default Re: Ziggler losing CLEAN to Miz

I've heard people say before in sport "you need to learn to lose before you learn to win" seems to be a tradition now, jobbed out before the title win. Only problem is then it makes the champion look like an underdog, then when they lose the title it seemed like it took longer than it should have for someone to beat them.
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