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View Poll Results: Has Rock's return since 2011 improve his legacy, or worsen it?
My thoughts towards the Rock are more negative since his return 96 44.04%
My thoughts towards the Rock are more positive since his return 50 22.94%
My thoughts towards the Rock are neutral since his return 72 33.03%
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Neither,he hasn't improved,but it'll take more than 3-4 so-so matches to ruin his legacy.And as for his promos its not his fault his has to water them down due to PG,the delivery charisma and energy is still the EXACT same as it was about 10 years ago.





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The Rock's return to the industry maybe helped it tremendously in the financial aspect, but it exposed it to the astronomical gap there's between him and everybody else. He's in a league of his own, playing checkers in the rules of chess. Everything he did and said turned into money and buzz. He says Fruity Pebbles, creates a campaign. Says Boots To Asses, makes millions of dollars in merchandising and it's chanted in sports games. His cleverness, charisma, naturalism and charm as a performer was unmatched in the peak of the wrestling industry, but now it's scary. He's taking crowds that were in complete silence for 3 hours and turns them into MSG in a 15 minutes segment. All that without mentioning his unbelievable business impact in an era where wrestling awareness is at all-time low. He comes back to a dead industry and goes on a record breaking machine of a run like it's 1999-2000, WM buyrates, gates, fastest selling WM packages, highest grossing events, everything he put his name on it, made record revenue. His return proved one thing and that's that he can do it in every period in history, regardless of the talent pool, regardless of the direction of the product, regardless of the relevancy of the business in the mainstream media, because he's the driving force and the greatest the industry has ever seen. You can't really appreciate something until it's gone, in a few years, people will understand.
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Re: Has the Rock's return tarnished or "bettered" his legacy for you?

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Ever since his return in February 2011, I've only liked 2 things that the Rock has done. His return promo when he was unveiled as the guest host for Mania 27 and his Survivor Series promo at Madison Square Garden. Everything else, I just plain out didn't like or just found extremely underwhelming. His feud and match with Cena was underwhelming, ditto for his Punk feud etc.

Before Rock's return, he was regarded as this mythical figure in WWE history who was an absolute legend, and was far above professional wrestling at that point. Well, 2 years later, have you guys changed your outlook towards the Rock and his career at all after all the matches, all the promo, vignettes etc? And if so, is has it made Rock's legacy even greater for you, or has it tarnished Rock's legacy for you?

EDIT: There is no doubt Rock is the biggest box office draw that WWE has, but let's leave that out of this discussion. Base this PURELY out of whether you like the Rock more or not since his return.
What about his twitter shoot? Did you like it?

LOL mythical? What does that even mean in your world?

Also he's not a Legend but an Icon.

No in 2013 (with decent fued with punk) he has proven to me that he is just about as damn good as he was 10 years prior (face this time though).

As far as Cena thing goes not everything worked since that whole wrestling through setellite thing and not to mention more shooting and less entertaining during 2012 RTWM period(although his twitter shoot is one of the best shoots of all time). Not to mention it was only an evarage performance for a match everyone was waiting for over a year. It didn't live up to the hype just as I knew from the moment they announced it that it wouldn't.

Also he hasn't tarnished anything if anything he did put WWE over (and that's what Icons like him should be doing).
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Re: Has the Rock's return tarnished or "bettered" his legacy for you?

you guys are funny.

The Rock is the best thing going in WWE right now. Anytime he comes out it's a big deal, and it's entertaining.

Has he been a little too over the top babyface lately? Maybe. But that's only because the fans cheer for him so...and after a 10 year absence he wasn't going to come back to just be a dick in front of the audience.

If the crowds start to boo him...he'll adapt. Always has. but for now, he doesn't get any boos whatsoever, so why change?
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Re: Has the Rock's return tarnished or "bettered" his legacy for you?

He hasn't bettered his legacy but he hasn't tarnished it either, he only came back because he missed it, for the fans and to help bring in more buyrates and viewers, and he has succeeded. In doing so he has given Punk the much needed exposure enhancing him to become a bigger star. Winning the wwe title I would have not had anything against it if he wasn't going to drop it to cena.



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Re: Has the Rock's return tarnished or "bettered" his legacy for you?

The Rock is just acting like Cena with more penis jokes and is even more annoying.

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Re: Has the Rock's return tarnished or "bettered" his legacy for you?

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The Rock's return to the industry maybe helped it tremendously in the financial aspect, but it exposed it to the astronomical gap there's between him and everybody else. He's in a league of his own, playing checkers in the rules of chess. Everything he did and said turned into money and buzz. He says Fruity Pebbles, creates a campaign. Says Boots To Asses, makes millions of dollars in merchandising and it's chanted in sports games. His cleverness, charisma, naturalism and charm as a performer was unmatched in the peak of the wrestling industry, but now it's scary. He's taking crowds that were in complete silence for 3 hours and turns them into MSG in a 15 minutes segment. All that without mentioning his unbelievable business impact in an era where wrestling awareness is at all-time low. He comes back to a dead industry and goes on a record breaking machine of a run like it's 1999-2000, WM buyrates, gates, fastest selling WM packages, highest grossing events, everything he put his name on it, made record revenue. His return proved one thing and that's that he can do it in every period in history, regardless of the talent pool, regardless of the direction of the product, regardless of the relevancy of the business in the mainstream media, because he's the driving force and the greatest the industry has ever seen. You can't really appreciate something until it's gone, in a few years, people will understand.


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None the less I agree with everything you just said there. And some people just have it them to whine when faced with greatness. It will be the same people who will crawl back here to this very site and say how much they missed RTWM 2013 once he's gone doing his movies.

Others tend to question Vince why he is giving him the belt while they have all the answers right in front of them. Being ignoratly blind and counsiously blind can be 2 different things but in the end of the day things The Rock does and will do will always speak for themselves.
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it tarnises the legacy the wwe more than anything

after hundreds of wrestlers, thousands of shows across the span of a decade, during which Rock would gladly pick hollywood over wrestling any day, wwe wouldn't give the time of day to the future of the sport over someone who is essencially an avatar of better times gone by
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Re: Has the Rock's return tarnished or "bettered" his legacy for you?

Nothing will ever erase what Rock did for the company through out his wrestling career. You can't change history.

He's got nothing else to prove, and he's "been there, and done that".

Is he as good as he was before he left? No, but that's what happen when you get older, and appearently, alot of people here don't realize that.


...but this is not about Rock "tarnishing" his legacy, it's about Punk's fan boys refusal to "let it go".

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The Rock's return to the industry maybe helped it tremendously in the financial aspect, but it exposed it to the astronomical gap there's between him and everybody else. He's in a league of his own, playing checkers in the rules of chess. Everything he did and said turned into money and buzz. He says Fruity Pebbles, creates a campaign. Says Boots To Asses, makes millions of dollars in merchandising and it's chanted in sports games. His cleverness, charisma, naturalism and charm as a performer was unmatched in the peak of the wrestling industry, but now it's scary. He's taking crowds that were in complete silence for 3 hours and turns them into MSG in a 15 minutes segment. All that without mentioning his unbelievable business impact in an era where wrestling awareness is at all-time low. He comes back to a dead industry and goes on a record breaking machine of a run like it's 1999-2000, WM buyrates, gates, fastest selling WM packages, highest grossing events, everything he put his name on it, made record revenue. His return proved one thing and that's that he can do it in every period in history, regardless of the talent pool, regardless of the direction of the product, regardless of the relevancy of the business in the mainstream media, because he's the driving force and the greatest the industry has ever seen. You can't really appreciate something until it's gone, in a few years, people will understand.
and he HOLD BACK clear as day how he losing it and in between at the SAME TIME deliver the return promo the u-tube one the MSG one the one after WM 28 the first one with punk and last night as well so he had some magic thing sometime and some not or WHAT

he just don't bother to make effort every week because the wwe fanbase today don't care what the IWC want that's what Rock316AE said before at rock / cena thread last year : rock change every run and he has something for everyone


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