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Old 02-05-2013, 04:05 PM   #51 (permalink)
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I'm not asking for him to be in the main event after one year, the world champions right now should be Punk for the WWE title and Barrett for the World Heavyweight title, not Sandow. That doesn't mean he shouldn't be getting BUILT UP. Sandow is one of the most entertaining people on the roster and his career's been completely stalled since the second they announced that stupid team with Cody. He should at least be getting a midcard title push like Cesaro at this stage, nothing less.



And you don't matter if that's the only show you can get on.
Don't worry, if HHH is a fan of Sandow then he will no doubt get treated better than he is now.
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Old 02-05-2013, 04:09 PM   #52 (permalink)
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Triple H isn't a fan of Sandow, that was just a dirtsheet rumor. If Triple H was a fan of Sandow, then he never would've even been in this position. It's either that, or Triple H has no power in WWE and can't influence pushes (like, for example, Sheamus and Roman Reigns...).

Which one is more likely?
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Old 02-05-2013, 04:13 PM   #53 (permalink)
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Triple H isn't a fan of Sandow, that was just a dirtsheet rumor. If Triple H was a fan of Sandow, then he never would've even been in this position. It's either that, or Triple H has no power in WWE and can't influence pushes (like, for example, Sheamus and Roman Reigns...).

Which one is more likely?
But Sandow's position isn't horrible though. They made him a singles competitor once again (something you wanted) so it's not all doom and gloom. When he is losing against the 'big' names (i.e. Sheamus and Cena), he doesn't lose in quick time, he actually puts on a lengthy performance against them. It's not like all his losses are squash matches.

I will agree that Wade is a joke right now though.
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They got a week off so people like Jack Swagger and Mark Henry could have a moment. I'll go look for your thread about where the Rock was, now.
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But Sandow's position isn't horrible though. They made him a singles competitor once again (something you wanted) so it's not all doom and gloom. When he is losing against the 'big' names (i.e. Sheamus and Cena), he doesn't lose in quick time, he actually puts on a lengthy performance against them. It's not like all his losses are squash matches.

I will agree that Wade is a joke right now though.
He's actually in a much better position than Sandow. Albeit still a joke level.

Sandow's position IS horrible. He's too talented to be a jobber to the stars, and he's not in a feud where he can get to the next level, it's just pointless losing week after week. It doesn't matter if they're squashes or not, nobody remembers anything but who wins. Wins get people over, losses don't, you need to WIN to advance up the card, that's part of the deal. At this point, he'd have to lose to them, so he shouldn't be facing guys like that in the first place. He should've been building himself up with a midcard (not tag) title reign by now.
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Ziggy was in Australia for a few days apparently
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A lot of people with excellent taste. That's who. Ziggler > Sandow, and I'm a huge Sandow fan.
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Old 02-05-2013, 06:00 PM   #58 (permalink)
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He's actually in a much better position than Sandow. Albeit still a joke level.

Sandow's position IS horrible. He's too talented to be a jobber to the stars, and he's not in a feud where he can get to the next level, it's just pointless losing week after week. It doesn't matter if they're squashes or not, nobody remembers anything but who wins. Wins get people over, losses don't, you need to WIN to advance up the card, that's part of the deal. At this point, he'd have to lose to them, so he shouldn't be facing guys like that in the first place. He should've been building himself up with a midcard (not tag) title reign by now.
But even Cesaro is a jobber to the stars. He has lost against Ryback (two times by pinfall) and Randy Orton. The only main guys that Sandow has lost against are Sheamus, Cena, Orton and Kane. Mind you, he has lost by DQ or count out to some stars which shows they are trying to protect him. When he loses, he usually puts on a lengthy performance, not a quick squash. David Otunga or the 3MB are in squash matches, not Sandow. I think it's too early to say if he has a future in this company or not but his position isn't horrible.
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So this was in the dirt sheets today

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A lot of people with excellent taste. That's who. Ziggler > Sandow, and I'm a huge Sandow fan.
Yeah, he's better in 1 category, and it's the least important category to be good in. Sandow is better in all the other ones, so no, Ziggler's not better at all. He's as generic and vanilla as talent gets, and the only way he gets attention is to flip like a moron when he takes a bump.
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