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Official Raw Discussion Thread - 2/4/13 - HERE COMES THE PAIN

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MONDAY NIGHT RAW FIVE POINT PREVIEW











The entire show is basically built around Paul Heyman. It's also interesting to see everything intertwined like this. I can't remember the last time we had a storyline that reached out to multiple characters. WWE dealing with some complex shit for a change. I wonder if they're actually able to pull this off and get it right.
 
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Just caught up on last night's show. I missed a good one.

So glad to see that the ratings is finally back. Mark Henry needs to bring back the Hall of Pain.
Jericho and Punk was an amazing match.
Always happy to see Bork.
Glad The Shield got to actually speak at a live show. Don't think I've seen that yet.
Quote of the night: "That wasn't Paul. It was CGI!"
 
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Yeah there was some shit but there always is.

Punk/Jericho was AWESOME. Bryan/Mysterio had a nice go home sequence. BEAST tearing shit up. Punk's promo was okay but ruined by a shite crowd.

WWE, do not go back to Atlanta for at least a year, they are AWFUL. I thought Rock was meant to be appearing via satellite, i don't remember this, did i miss something?
 
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I didn't even notice that Ziggler wasn't on the show. That's how much presence he's got, and I'm a fan of the guy.

Raw had some really great moments last night, and since no 3 hour show is ever going to be perfect, that's good enough for me. Bryan/Mysterio was fun, Punk/Jericho was awesome. Shield on the mic~! Heyman~! Punk~! Lesnar~! HENRY~!

It's great to have some GOOD monsters back on the roster. Henry and Lesnar showing them boys how it's done.

Punk and Heyman cut money promos.

Cesaro and Rhodes being thrown to the wolves wasn't great, but you can't have everything, right?

Show/ADR is the first decent WHC feud since... ??? I really like what they're trying to do, and Show is un-fucking-believable as a heel chasing the title. ADR NEEDS Ricardo. That's the only way he's getting a consistent pop at this point.
 
#3,507 ·
WWE should never return to that godforsaken hellhole Atlanta, ever again. If you go back and watch every second of the hour show, I'm fairly certain there were boring chants in every segment. Was the show overall boring? Maybe, but I mean it was to the point of absurdity. They started chanting boring at Heyman not even 10 seconds into him speaking. I mean, you want let him say more than 3 words before you decide it's boring?

No reactions for anyone. Including Cena. He got probably the best of the reactions but even his was muted compared to times before. Just an awful awful crowd.
 
#3,509 ·
I JUST watched Brock Lesnar assaulting the hell out of the Miz..and it amused me how when Brock Lesnar tossed over the couch effortlessly no one said a damn thing about it, but when Ryback did it using wayyy more effort than Lesnar did cats acted like it was the most impressive thing they'd ever seen. Hell, they didn't even replay Lesnar tossing the couch a thousand times like they did with Ryback. It just goes to show that Ryback aint nothing special, and how real Lesnar was/i
 
#3,511 ·
I'm hoping for a lot more Lesnar appearances and I would even like to see him fight at Elimination Chamber, even though that is unlikely. Looking forward to the Triple H return and build up to this WM match up, can definately see Heyman getting pedigreed by Triple H as revenge.
 
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CM Punk had a decent opening segment to start off RAW. Him ripping that birthday kid's sign, making Justin Roberts call him the "People's Champion", and interacting with the fans (plants or otherwise) was a nice touch. Saying the Paul Heyman in the backstage video was possibly CGI was funny.

The Cesar/Ryback match was honestly nothing much worth talking about.

Next was a squash match with Jack Swagger dominating Santino. Nothing else here worth noting. Although I did kind of liked Swagger's black singlet. Apparently, WWE is trying to build him up as being completely changed. We'll see. Probably won't amount to nothing though.

All I remember about ADR/Rhodes match was Cody wearing that mustache-comb shirt. :lol The very next segment with Big Show at some hotel via satellite was nice in that Show played off a really good intimidating heel. Although there's certain someone who does an even better version later on in the episode.

Bryan/Rey was a nice little technical match. One of the two matches on RAW that were actually good. These two really complement each other.

It was quickly overshadowed by the return of Mark Henry though. I marked out at this. The Hall of Pain has returned and it was very awesome, destroying Bryan, Rey, and Sin Cara. Henry is so good at playing the intimidating dominating heel. Very nice to see him back! One of the best segments of the night.:mark:

The Sheamus/Kane match was kind of slow for me. Not in the sense that these two are huge guys and one of them is getting old or anything, because I know both are capable of fast-paced action. It's just that there were moments where it looked awkward, like they were just wandering around waiting for the next move, and such. Sheamus and Kane are both good workers, but this match just didn't do much for me. Bryan coming in just to troll Kane was hilarious though.

The only good thing about the MizTV segment was Heyman being his usual epic self, and Brock Lesnar F5ing Miz.

Orton/Barrett match. Same old match. Seen it many times now. The Bo Dallas promo in the beginning was downright bad. The guy definitely needs to work on his promos, mic skills, etc. And from what I hear, apparently Cena is high on him? :cena2 dat Cena push.

The return of those Fandango vignette was hilarious. WWE seems to have just remembered Johnny Curtis.

The Jericho and Punk match was the other match that was good, and was the best match of the night for me. That's not saying much though, considering all the other matches were nothing special in the first place...For what it's worth, these two put on a very good, fairly long match. Kudos to them.

Congrats to Bruno Sammartino for finally getting inducted in the Hall of Fame. A legend among legends.

The ADR/Big Show hotel segment was okay I guess. Nice to see some fights going on somewhere that isn't backstage.

Brad Maddox getting some mic time, playing that heel starving for some fame and calling out the Shield. I think he played the role fairly good. It was really refreshing to have the Shield get some mic time as well. WWE needs to have them start speaking on the mic much more frequently, and maybe have them do some individual matches to book them strong and such.

The only thing worth noting about the ending was Sheamus' face as he was coming downstairs.

Overall, a slightly above average RAW. Mark Henry's return was the highlight of the entire show for me.
 
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What was the actual logic behind Vickie's decision to rehire Lesnar? Something about him being an elite free agent and she wanted to do it in order to impress Vince?

Why would Vince be impressed by the rehiring of a man who fucked up his son-in-law on more than one occasion during the summer and who tried to hold the company by the balls with this crazy demands "Monday Night RAW Starring brock Lesnar"? Does this seem illogical to anyone else or am I missing something here?
 
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