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Re: Ziggler defines overrated...

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Re: Ziggler defines overrated...

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You can't be serious. Ziggler OOZES charisma when he is out there.

And don't start the HURRR RATINGZZ bullshit. Invalid argument.
Invalid, people are not watching Ziggler, and his matches. Hence the reason they put him against Cena. It was to prove that Cena is the draw, and that you can place him against anyone including some overrated piece of meat like Ziggler. They even added Big E, and restarted a feud with Jericho to help him get over. Still won't work. Langston has more presence than Ziggler, and he sucks.
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Re: Ziggler defines overrated...

Another terrible thread by truk83...
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Re: Ziggler defines overrated...

Ziggler can sell his ass off. He may not be the greatest on the mic but he's getting better. He makes anyone he works with look 10x better with his outrageous sells tbh.


He may look like Billy Gunn the 2nd, but I like him
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Re: Ziggler defines overrated...

Anytime a potential world champ is paired up with a female manager, they're assuming he needs said hot girl to help him draw.

To add a body guard, ala a mercenary, they're just assuming he needs one of those to draw as well.

Ziggler had Vicki, he has AJ and E, he has always had someone by his side. But, that doesn't take away his wrestling talent and the fact that he can sell like no other, a modern day Mr. Perfect in that department.

Whether or not Ziggler can do it on his own without a manager or stable is yet to be seen, but at the moment, I see Ziggz as more of a guy who would be totally over with the TNA audience as world champ, but a step behind in terms of main event material (think Jarrett or Mr. Kennedy) in the big leagues.

But like I said, I'm not the greatest judge of these things as I assumed the same with Triple H back in the 90's and he turned out to be a 197 time champion, so there ya go.

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Re: Ziggler defines overrated...

i'd say Triple H does actually or Vince Mcmahon
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Re: Ziggler defines overrated...

Ziggler is barely above 0% in terms of charisma. Anyone can verbally suck their own dick and shake their ass or copy Flair's strut walk. All of his attempts just come off so forced. It's like Lance Storm after Austin buried him. He came out to some cheesy techno music and started jumping around like a cheerleader but it felt so forced and fake. I wouldn't put Ziggler in the same position as Storm with charisma but he's only a notch above which isn't saying much.

He's got good ring skills, athleticism and can bump like no one else but that's all he has going for him. Maybe like Del Rio, he can turn it around a notch with a face turn so I wont say I'm completely dismissing him. Although he's still overrated.
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Re: Ziggler defines overrated...

you obviously don't know anything about wrestling

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Another terrible thread by truk83...
It's the hottest thread going right now. Everyone that is viewing has something to say. Even you, yes even you Pasab.
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Re: Ziggler defines overrated...

In the ring he's great, although there are better workers than him IMO. But whenever he cuts a promo, it seems like he's trying too hard, he is more than passable at times, but theres other times when he doesn't sound at all believable and way off, like tonight.

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