Re: Ziggler defines overrated...
I can't remember the last MITB winner being so meaningless other than Swagger. The only reason people even tune in to see Ziggler is because they are curious to know when he will cash it in. That's it. It was genius booking on the WWE's part. Having the MITB on a star you are "trying" to push is a solid idea. However, I don't think it's working, and it's mainly on his mic skills. Listen to the man talk, and it's very obvious he needs to go on steroids, and deepen his voice. Even Shawn Michaels had a tough voice. Ziggler sounds like a teenager. That totally kills all credibility for me. Not to mention he doesn't have his own look. They even gave him a ridiculous name thinking that would help him. It's funny how so many folks on here have just given in to that.
Dolph Ziggler, really? All I hear about Ziggler are these false comparisons to "The Nature Boy", or "The next HBK". That is complete bullshit. Listen to Flair, and HBK when they speak. Do they sound like teen age boys? No. It's because as smaller sized stars both Flair, and Michaels knew that they had to not only make up for their stature, but it had to come over the mic. Other than their expertise in the ring, both Flair, and Michaels were great at cutting promos, and sounding convincing. Ziggler is unable to do either of those. When I look at him I see Billy Gunn. Everything from the boots, the trunks, and the silly mullett.
When he starts shouting he sounds awful, and hardly intimidating. If there is any one star he should remotely try to mold his career as, it would have to be Bret Hart. Get rid of the Billy Gunn look, and go with a Bret Hart look. Not pink, and black, but perhaps silver, and black? Stop making every promo sound like it's your last, and take the same tone that Bret Hart did when he spoke in his early IC title days. It was short, sweet, and to the point. Skip the leather coat, and glasses. Finally, take the "Sharpshooter" because no one relevant does the move other than Natalya which no one gives two shits about.
Ziggler doesn't seem to even know who Ziggler is. He can't seperate the character from who he is. Dolph has to create a character, and as a heel he just can't do that. Anyone can be cocky, or arrogant. It's how you go about that role. You just can't be yourself unless you are a character. He doesn't strike me as someone who knows how to keep to kayfabe either. I have met the man at WWE events, and it's obvious he isn't in character most of the time. That's his problem. Back in the good ole' days I remember guys like Razor Ramon, or Savage. Those guys fucking stayed in character in front of their fans outside of the ring.
In my opinion Ziggler has as much charisma right now as Shelton, Kingston, Morrison, or McIntyre for that matter. Granted Shelton didn't go around calling himself The Gold Standard, but when you met him he was never in character. Kingston is the same way, he is just this normal guy like he is on television. That's what makes these folks who are talented so boring. They can't alter their sense of who they are in the ring, and then in real life. You can't just be you, there has to be something extra. Dolph Ziggler offers nothing to that concept. Charisma is being able to show it under any role you play.
Where is the charisma folks? When I used to cover live wrestling events most of the stars, like 90% of the roster stayed in character. Meaning they spoke, and acted like the folks they were on television. That hardly happens today at all. This is something that most of you may not be aware of if you don't have a history of following the WWE, ECW, or WCW on the road to house shows. Notice how The Rock speaks in 3rd person? He used to do that when you spoke to him outside of the ring when he just breaking through as The Rock. I'm not saying wrestlers should never break character, but some of the greats hardly ever did. Ziggler can't break character because he doesn't even have one. His gimmick is his name, boring.