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Old 01-29-2013, 05:18 PM   #91 (permalink)
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No charisma? You gotta be kidding me.
yep ziggler has a lot of charisma.

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Old 01-29-2013, 05:19 PM   #92 (permalink)
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- Perhaps, but I didn't see that show
- Nope, Rumble was MOTN
- Nope, Rumble was MOTN
- Nope, Kane/Bryan/Punk


your wrong bro just stop. Oh and ziggler and Orton stole the show at survivor series as well
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he's getting great reactions from the crowd, he has had some brilliant matches over the last 3 months that have arguably stolen the show, and he is improving drastically on the stick. at the same time he is one of the most entertaining guys on the roster at the moment imo. Yeah, i don't find him the least bit overrated to be honest.
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Old 01-29-2013, 05:21 PM   #94 (permalink)
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I'm gonna have a lot of the IWC upset, but Ziggler's a great athlete, the best, his ring work is awesome, but his mic skills are non-existant, and I don't think that's going to change.... and his name and his look just don't jive well. I like the guy, don't get me wrong, but I really don't see him ever being a draw on his own.

There's nothing wrong with that either, not every guy will be Hulk Hogan or the Rock, but some of the people on this board think he will be the biggest thing in wrestling or something. Don't get me wrong, great worker, but he lacks in the other departments despite being given a lot of help. What will it take for this guy to cut a decent promo?
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Like I said, not just MOTN but MOTYC, which is far more impressive.

I couldn't tell you when he adopted the gimmick, but it's not to be taken literally anyway.


What match were you watching?

I know it was one of Edge's last and you'll romantizes it as being something great, but when Meltzer only gives it a *** 1/2... you know it is just average.

Last time I check, run of the mill 3 star matches aren't in the running for "MOTY". Techincally it was in the running I guess because e it was the first match rated that year lol
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Anytime a potential world champ is paired up with a female manager, they're assuming he needs said hot girl to help him draw.

To add a body guard, ala a mercenary, they're just assuming he needs one of those to draw as well.

Ziggler had Vicki, he has AJ and E, he has always had someone by his side. But, that doesn't take away his wrestling talent and the fact that he can sell like no other, a modern day Mr. Perfect in that department.

Whether or not Ziggler can do it on his own without a manager or stable is yet to be seen, but at the moment, I see Ziggz as more of a guy who would be totally over with the TNA audience as world champ, but a step behind in terms of main event material (think Jarrett or Mr. Kennedy) in the big leagues.

But like I said, I'm not the greatest judge of these things as I assumed the same with Triple H back in the 90's and he turned out to be a 197 time champion, so there ya go.
Mr. Kennedy is one of the worst wrestlers I've ever seen no way would I compare Ziggler to him. HHH pre Steph and pre roids was never going to be a legend so you weren't exactly wrong on that one. I imagine if Vince had another daughter Dolph could hook up with after gaining 20 lbs of roid muscle he'd become an all time great as well.
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Guys who are more overrated than ziggler

Miz
Del Rio
Sheamus
Big show
Barrett
Cesaro
Sandow
Rhodes

And I like a couple of those guys^

I just don't understand how people think he's the most overrated guy in the company
Cesaro is untouchable in the ring right now he's still figuring out his character, but dude is on fire as an in ring performer. Sheamus is another guy with a lame character, but is pretty great in ring I wouldn't say overrated as much as miss used. Del Rio looks great as a baby face, takes just as big of bumps as Ziggler, and has much better offense. Plus Ricardo > AJ.

Big Show is underrated everything the guy does is at least solid. Rhodes and Sandow could be great the tag division just lacks depth too early to judge them imo. Barrett has lost all momentum' Bo Dallas lol. Miz is great at eveything..... jk Miz is the drizzling s#its in all aspects of pro wrestling.

I need to see a proper babyface run from Ziggler before I say he's overrated. I think he needs to get some better offense, but I could see fans rallying behind him afer he takes some epic butt whoppings.
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Here is a fun fact:

Dolph Ziggler has only ever been involved in 1 **** or better match (not including MITB, then it would be whooping 3 as **** were given for SD MITB 10 and WHC MITB 12):

against Cena at TLC (****).

Source: http://starratingslist.blogspot.com/...6-present.html

That is a terrible rate considering marks love to praise Ziggler as "Top 5 worker in the company". Ziggler has basically had 1 very good match in the hundreds he has worked.

He's good, but he's not that good, folks.

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Old 01-29-2013, 05:32 PM   #98 (permalink)
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Here is a fun fact:

Dolph Ziggler has only ever been involved in 1 4-star or better match (not including MITB, then it would be whooping 3):

against Cena at TLC (****).

Source: http://starratingslist.blogspot.com/...6-present.html


your going off dave meltzler? All that fucking idiot looks at is technical wrestling... The same Guy who said hbk/taker at WM 25 wasn't a 5 star match.
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Here is a fun fact:

Dolph Ziggler has only ever been involved in 1 4-star or better match (not including MITB, then it would be whooping 3):

against Cena at TLC (****).

Source: http://starratingslist.blogspot.com/...6-present.html
Tuna Meltzer grading? Must be objective and nothing but the truth. How many 4* matches does Faksyakayaksyaki Tachomichomishima have? 240? Seems legit.
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What match were you watching?

I know it was one of Edge's last and you'll romantizes it as being something great, but when Meltzer only gives it a *** 1/2... you know it is just average.

Last time I check, run of the mill 3 star matches aren't in the running for "MOTY". Techincally it was in the running I guess because e it was the first match rated that year lol
Ziggler consistently has some of the best matches on raw and smackdown as well as on ppv's, look at his last feud with cena, sure they let cena win but the matches were great. I have a feeling some people are on this thread just to troll.
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