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Old 01-29-2013, 04:10 PM   #21 (permalink)
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rock was always a mediocre wrestler. his charisma made up for it.
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No, he's absolutely right. Rock and Punk are my all-time favorites, and Rock might be a bit slower today, but that's it. He's just as entertaining, and he tells just as much a story. He was never an amazing in-ring performer, that's just the truth. He was like Randy Orton is today: great at playing his character at every moment of every match, great at selling, great at being 'intense,' but not an amazing performer aside from that. That still makes Rock an all-time great, I'd say top 3 with Hogan/Rock/Austin. Maybe 'mediocre' takes it a bit too far, but I might call him mediocre too. Rock was made famous by his incredible promos, not 5-star matches.

And I thought Rock/Punk was great. Apply standards consistently, and you'll realize that Rock's greatest matches ten yrs ago were as "psychological" as Rock vs. Punk. Lol its precisely because he was never an amazing in-ring performer, but rather a great actor, that he can put on classic Rock matches at the age of 40. Kurt Angle is nothing like he used to be because he was mostly about in-ring ability.
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Old 01-29-2013, 04:13 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Well yeah, he's said it many times, but you can only say something so many times without actually proving it.
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I actually didn't want The Rock to return unless it he was willing to make a drastic change in character and that's something Austin won't do even though I think he'd be still entertaining, because he doesn't really like on silly catchphrases and jokes but in the end he still got a be in a match and that's what everyone will remember the most if he returns. Just look at Y2J when he return in 2007 he tried to be the same guy he was in 2000-01 and it didn't work therefore he made a change and became the best heel in 08-09. So when he took his breaks and made his returns you knew that he was going to be entertaining whether being in a match or promo as a heel or face it didn't matter.
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Austin could have a great brawl with Punk. Austin beating Punk pillar to post would be epic. All he would have to sell are Punk's strikes, some submission moves, a few flying moves, and a GTS. Austin wouldn't have to take many bumps at all these two are made for each other. The promo work would be out of this world as well.
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Austin should not come back... A PG Era Austin is not what I want to see. This current incarnation of the Rock has totally made me turn channels, even the Rock is boring now. Austin prided himself on drinking beer giving the middle finger and swearing like the SOB he is... what is he going to do now? Drink soda, give high fives and shout hallelujah and telling everyone how awesome Cena is?

I have no problem with WWE's current product but I just think Austin's time is done, we are forcing too much of bringing back old talent when WWe should be working on their current talent. All I hear on here is people asking to bring back, Lesner/Undertaker/Y2J/Batista/Rock/Austin/Kurt Angle/Jeff Hardy... me personally would prefer to see some current talent developed to be more suited for this current era instead of trying to mold older generation superstars into this current one.
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No, he's absolutely right. Rock and Punk are my all-time favorites, and Rock might be a bit slower today, but that's it. He's just as entertaining, and he tells just as much a story. He was never an amazing in-ring performer, that's just the truth. He was like Randy Orton is today: great at playing his character at every moment of every match, great at selling, great at being 'intense,' but not an amazing performer aside from that. That still makes Rock an all-time great, I'd say top 3 with Hogan/Rock/Austin. Maybe 'mediocre' takes it a bit too far, but I might call him mediocre too. Rock was made famous by his incredible promos, not 5-star matches.

And I thought Rock/Punk was great. Apply standards consistently, and you'll realize that Rock's greatest matches ten yrs ago were as "psychological" as Rock vs. Punk. Lol its precisely because he was never an amazing in-ring performer, but rather a great actor, that he can put on classic Rock matches at the age of 40. Kurt Angle is nothing like he used to be because he was mostly about in-ring ability.
I thought Rock was just starting to hit his peak as a wrestle around 2002. I think he could've gotten really good had he remained a full timer. Cena pretty much stunk until 2007 that was the year he turned 30. Rock was already a part timer when he turned 30. Most wrestlers hit their peak around the age Rock was when he left.
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Austin always better because of Austin neck injury so he limited his in ring but really depended on Psychology...people forgot how great Austin are and after 97 he lost his full potential. rock suck in comparison.

for Austin, need great worker like HHH who is safe worker and able to have a good match with Austin...i think guys like Bryan, Punk especially Ziggler for how safe is unknown. Cena? suck.

even for few mins of matches today wrestler could learn alot from Austin with his in ring Psychology.

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The hard time The Rock is getting for this match is BAFFLING to me. I thought the match was entertaining. Sure The Rock isn't delivering in the ring like he was in the year 2000... in the year 2000 he was a fulltime bonafide professional wrestler... 28 years old and in the prime of his life.

Earth to OP. It's 2013. Rock is 40 and he's had 3 matches since his retirement in 2004.

Now The Rock is still in great shape physically but neither me nor you can ever truly understand how little that matters without ring time. No one wrestles an hour without a problem after barely wrestling in 8-9 years. You need to be wrestling 4-5 times a week solid as well as working out to get to that level of fitness.

You put the Rock out there for a year on the fulltime circuit and I bet he could have a 4 star plus classic again with the right worker in the right match. But the man's 40 years old and with all that muscle mass he's carrying now he'd be a sure candidate for injury before that year would be up.

As it goes, he done a great job for his circumstances in the match and considering the entertainment he brings outside of the actual matches I'm more than happy with him being around.

As for Austin, I'd love to see him have one more match - even if it's not on par with his match with Bret at WM 13 or his match with HHH at NWO 01 or with Rock at WMX7 or his match with Kurt at Summerslam 01. Even if it's not the classic match ups all those were, I'd still happily watch him in a feud and going at it one more time.

And for the record, Rock is obviously in better shape physically, but I bet Austin would turn up and do a better job in the ring than Rock has.
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Not only he was terrible in the match against punk, but his promos are getting too friendly and he got booed! i mean, it's the rock man, how can he get booed!?. So i guess, just like you i don't want to see my favorite superstar back in the WWE. it's ok for some appearances, but not to wrestle!
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Austin is almost 50 years..he would not come back unless he can do what he's known for. Simple as that. The complaints about the Rock are from a petty and inferior fanbase who cheer for mediocrity with a laughable amount of pride. It's quite telling of what the business is today. Ziggler's dropkicks will never get nowhere near a pop or explosion like the Rock spinebuster. Neither will a GTS unless it's in Chicago after a world beater promo.
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