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post #4671 of 4802 (permalink) Old 01-29-2013, 09:33 AM
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Re: 1/28 Raw Discussion: Fallout from the Rumble

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Awesome job by Punk playing on his title loss. That's how it's done.
Ok, for Punk's character, that was a fitting reaction to a title loss.

But that doesn't mean everyone else. Punk is meant to be a rebellious character. Others are meant to act professional, specially the faces. Can you see John Cena or Randy Orton as faces whining like that about a title loss? It would even look stupid for many heels. It's ok for Punk's character but that whiny speech doesn't suit everyone.

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Re: 1/28 Raw Discussion: Fallout from the Rumble

And last night's RAW is a prime example of why I can't stay mad at WWE. Freaking awesome RAW, last night.

Punk/Rock fucking owned! I can't believe I'm saying this but on the mic Punk>Rock. Punk is one of the top mic workers of all freaking time. Jesus, he was beast. So too was Rock. The entire segment was just INTENSE.

The only thing I'm still bummed out about is the possibility of Rock/Cena II.

And Lesnar returning? WTF? RTWM seems to be shaping up to be pretty damn good.

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Punk/Heyman was the highlight of the show as per usual.

Although in fairness Rock and Cena weren't as bad as usual and actually managed to cut semi serious promos without pandering to the crowd as much.

The dancing/kareoke segments were god-awful. Thank god for the fast forward button.

Sheamus/Sandow was a good match. Was hard to watch Barrett lose to Bo Dallas.

The end segment was gold. Heyman is so convincing I temporarily forgot I was watching a scripted tv show. Marked for Brock.

Overall a good show. Didn't make up for a horrible rumble, but it's something.

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The sad thing is WWE can be so much better if they'd let go of the wastes of TV time talent, such as Khali, Ryder, Tensai, Clay. Stop having those stupid fillers every 5 minutes and put on real matches. What was the point of making raw an hour longer if they're just gonna use it for fillers that are completely irrelevant.
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Re: 1/28 Raw Discussion: Fallout from the Rumble

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I tell you, the WWE is really lucky they have people like Punk, Heyman, Vince, Brock, and The Rock to cover up all the bad they do.
Not really. Jericho/Ziggler/Hell No was good. Seamus/Sandow was good. Orton/Cesaro/Miz was good. Del Rio/Show was good. Of all the nights to complain, I don't think this should be one of them. Yeah, the Divas match, the singoff and the danceoff were stupid but the rest of the show was good to great.

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Re: 1/28 Raw Discussion: Fallout from the Rumble

It was a real mixed bag of a show this week, with a fair few memorable moments which is always a good sign. Unfortunately most match ups were unremarkable and a waste of time, especially Cena versus Rhodes and the Divas contest, plus the karaoke and dance off challenges should've been cut in favour of something half decent. Jericho and Ziggler's tag match with Team Hell No was also disappointing.

On the plus side the CM Punk and Rock promos were stellar as was the Oron Cesaro encounter, we finally had the Maddox and Shield involvement with Punk and Heyman brought out in the open, Stratus announced as a HOF inductee was a nice announcement, Tensai showed promise as a face and of course we had the momentous return of Brock Lesnar. Say what you want about him but both matches and all the segments he's been involved with since returning last year have been solid.

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Ok, for Punk's character, that was a fitting reaction to a title loss.

But that doesn't mean everyone else. Punk is meant to be a rebellious character. Others are meant to act professional, specially the faces. Can you see John Cena or Randy Orton as faces whining like that about a title loss? It would even look stupid for many heels. It's ok for Punk's character but that whiny speech doesn't suit everyone.
I don't mean that everyone should do it exactly like him, the core point is how you hype the title up by showing how much it mattered to you.

Smiling, saying "good job" and offer a handshake is sportsmanlike but WWE doesn't work as just sport, it needs the drama because it's not real competition. The titles only have as much value as the drama can portray. You can say that the other guy was the better man and still seem devastated that you've lost and promise that you will do everything you can to take it back.

And it's not like the faces are good sportsmen every time, and we've seen that it can work well. When Punk beat Cena and Big Show we had a backstage segment where Cena was being a sore loser and that made the outcome of the match mean so much more.
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Re: 1/28 Raw Discussion: Fallout from the Rumble

If you take the 3 absolutely terrible segments out , this would have been a real good 2 hour show.

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Re: 1/28 Raw Discussion: Fallout from the Rumble

I also forgot to mention how brilliant the footage of Heyman with Maddox and The Shield was. It was so well directed where Heyman came off perfectly as the sleazy mafia type manager and The Shield really looked menacing when they came up behind Maddox.

WWE can do great segments. I just wish they had a higher percentage of those.
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Re: 1/28 Raw Discussion: Fallout from the Rumble

Tensai to tag with Clay as the Hip Hop Hippo character?
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