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Old 01-23-2013, 10:18 PM   #21 (permalink)
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If he was the number 1 guy, he would still be a face.

The problem was, punk never connected with the children - and no, it does not mean cheesy suck up joking. It's an image problem - which is why kids like Cena, Rey Mysterio, TEam hell no, even the great Khali are more popular - to children that is.
"Punk never connected with the kids"? That must've been why all the kids were chanting his name, and wearing his t-shirts. At the height of his face run, Punk had the support of the ENTIRE crowd - not half of it like Cena has. Men, women and children were all behind him, and he was well on the way to surpassing Cena as THE MAN. The company had the chance to go all out with their backing of him, to make this happen... only they didn't, because nobody must ever overtake Cena - and thus Punk became disillusioned, and he came to realise that he would never be promoted over Cena... so he gave up on the futile quest to usurp Cena and went heel, instead.
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Old 01-23-2013, 10:25 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Default Re: Is it safe to say that Punk is finally the #1 guy?

Punk is only spotlighted now because he's feuding with the Rock.
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"Punk never connected with the kids"? That must've been why all the kids were chanting his name, and wearing his t-shirts. At the height of his face run, Punk had the support of the ENTIRE crowd - not half of it like Cena has. Men, women and children were all behind him, and he was well on the way to surpassing Cena as THE MAN. The company had the chance to go all out with their backing of him, to make this happen... only they didn't, because nobody must ever overtake Cena - and thus Punk became disillusioned, and he came to realise that he would never be promoted over Cena... so he gave up on the futile quest to usurp Cena and went heel, instead.
The company doesn't have a Cena bias, it has a money bias, and Cena is money. Ratings, merch, Cena's the leader, Punk's not.

Punk had a huge push in 2011, and was the reigning champion for 8 months as a face, but it got STALE. Punk/Bryan didn't have heat, as far as I'm concerned Punk/Y2J was a bad story as well (not talking about the matches). Punk/Del Rio made him a rebel against management's chosen guy, so did Punk/Ziggler since it involved Laurinitis. That rebel champion couldn't last by definition, he took over, he's the best. So, they eventually had to turn him heel.

And, it didn't make sense to continue the Laurinitis storyline. It wasn't going to last forever unless he actually screwed Punk out of the title (maybe that's where they should've gone with it), AND it was a perfect way to use John Cena if Cena wasn't going to be in the title picture: title main events, and great non-title main events that matter to the story.

Punk just wasn't that great of a face, at least not if he's a long-reigning champion. Cena's the guy. And Cena's pops have always been the biggest, the fact that he also gets boos doesn't contradict that. I know 100% is more than 50%, but Cena's 50% is still a larger actual number. Just LISTEN.
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No he's not.

Just think of what happened on Raw this week. From the start they were publicising Cena's "addressing the WWE universe" promo which was shit but still proves he's firmly the #1 guy. He probably sacrificed one of his make a wish kids to get the air time anyway the evil prick.
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Nope, he should be, but it's all about Cena in the WWE. This fantastic program in Rock/Punk will be put to death to make room for a shitty Cena/Rock program because Cena desperately needs his win back. Meanwhile all the hard work Punk has put in to making the show watchable in the first place will be for nothing when he gets stuck in the middle of the card at Wrestlemania with Undertaker.
This all the way. What a way to piss in Punk's face with this feud at Mania after the way he's carried Raw, UNBELIEVABLE.
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I would hope but I'm not going to get too excited yet.
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Absolutely not even though he should be but WWE has that glass ceiling for him to not break cause unfortunately that’s John Cena‘s position. From November 20th 2011 to Jul 23rd 2012 CM Punk was arguably the most irrelevant WWE Champion I’ve ever witness in recent memory. He was not the focus at all, it was all about John Cena, The Rock, Triple H, Undertaker, Shawn Michaels, Brock Lesnar, Mr. Excitement, Big Show, AJ Lee etc. while he was just floating in the mid-card. It felt as if he was having a great run with a mid-card championship with him being pushed very well to get him ready for the main event.

It was only until CM Punk hit that GTS on The Rock that his real reign with the WWE Championship (in my mind) begin. He was never the No.1 guy and unfortunately he will never be because WWE want John Cena to keep producing cringe worthy promos for the next 10 years to come.
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Old 01-24-2013, 12:18 AM   #28 (permalink)
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The company doesn't have a Cena bias, it has a money bias, and Cena is money. Ratings, merch, Cena's the leader, Punk's not.

Punk had a huge push in 2011, and was the reigning champion for 8 months as a face, but it got STALE. Punk/Bryan didn't have heat, as far as I'm concerned Punk/Y2J was a bad story as well (not talking about the matches). Punk/Del Rio made him a rebel against management's chosen guy, so did Punk/Ziggler since it involved Laurinitis. That rebel champion couldn't last by definition, he took over, he's the best. So, they eventually had to turn him heel.

And, it didn't make sense to continue the Laurinitis storyline. It wasn't going to last forever unless he actually screwed Punk out of the title (maybe that's where they should've gone with it), AND it was a perfect way to use John Cena if Cena wasn't going to be in the title picture: title main events, and great non-title main events that matter to the story.

Punk just wasn't that great of a face, at least not if he's a long-reigning champion. Cena's the guy. And Cena's pops have always been the biggest, the fact that he also gets boos doesn't contradict that. I know 100% is more than 50%, but Cena's 50% is still a larger actual number. Just LISTEN.
Punk actually overtook Cena in shirt sales at one point, and he was out-popping him too. Management, however didn't get behind him like they should've, most probably 'cos they didn't want to face up to the reality that someone - and an "outsider" (ie not a McMahon creation), at that, was getting more popular than the company golden boy.
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Nope, he should be, but it's all about Cena in the WWE. This fantastic program in Rock/Punk will be put to death to make room for a shitty Cena/Rock program because Cena desperately needs his win back. Meanwhile all the hard work Punk has put in to making the show watchable in the first place will be for nothing when he gets stuck in the middle of the card at Wrestlemania with Undertaker.
You say that as if it's a bad thing. Being booked with Taker is better then anything except being booked with Lesner or Rocky.



Problem is, I don't think Punk will get Taker. Probably a random midcard match with Ryback.
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CM Punk is #1. The #1 Heel that is. In a lot of ways, Punk is the Triple H of his era. While very successful, Triple H was never really the #1 guy throughout his career because of Rock and Austin. He did, however serve as the perfect #1 antagonist. As great as he was as a face, he was just made to be a heel. Just like Punk is today. The most important job as a heel is to make the face look as good as possible when necessary. I'd say both have a knack for just that.
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